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G80 M3 Production Should Begin March 2020
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Wow, that’s going to cause some surprised faces, and probably some gloating too. Not only is that an entire year ahead of (in relative terms) the last generation model (and even further ahead of the E90), but it means the M3 will debut the face of the G2x 4 Series (or at least the grill and headlights, anyway). Or, is it possible BMW tricked us with the M3 mules, and the M3 will use the G2x 3 Series grill/headlights instead? I know a number of folks were betting (or at least hoping for) on that. However, that seems even more unlikely than a 2020 SOP seemed at this point, though I suspect the early release date will lead more than a few to hold out hope. |
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Why this timing I don't know. My best guess is the ability to debug S58 in F97 shortened the G80 development cycle. And once the car is ready why not sell it and make tons of money? And I think you know I don't ever talk about exterior design. That's what Scott is for. |
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09-21-2019, 12:56 PM | #5 |
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So we should see G80 arrive at US dealers by summer 2020?
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I am trying to figure out the likely SOP for the G82 M4 given what we now know about the EOP of the F models, and the SOP of the G models. Given: EOP F30 - 10/18 SOP G20 - 11/18 one month turnaround even with a completly new design EOP F32 - 6/20 SOP G22 - 7/20 again a one month turnaround with a new design EOP F80 - 5/18 SOP G80 - 3/20 probably due to the 4 series schedeule EOP F82 - 6/20 SOP G82 - TBA Given that BMW can re-tool the production lines of the F30 & F32 in one month to produce the G20 & G22, is it not logical to think that they can do this with the G82 as well, and start production in 7/20? Or is there some physical reason why this would not be possible, or a business related reason? As a wise man once said, "Once the car is ready why not sell it and make tons of money?"
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Yet, if we take a look at the release timing of M products that are, as I write this, no less ready to go than you (and for the sake of argument, I’ll agree) are supposing the G82 M4 will be by 7/20 but are nevertheless still not on the market, we are reminded that this would be unprecedented.
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They aren’t even built on the same continent, but could the upcoming X6 M release provide some guide as to just how tight BMW can (or is willing to) make the turnaround between the standard and M models? I.e. do we know yet when F96 will begin production? I know that you’ve had the X5 M pegged for 2020 for over two years, but the month isn’t specified and it’s X6 M sibling isn’t listed. That would seem to be the least likely scenario yet, but given how crazy the events surrounding the G8x M3/M4 have already become, sure, why not? A distinct grill I could see as a reasonable possibility - that shouldn’t add too much cost. But headlights that are distinct from both the G20 and G22? That would seem to be a proposition that would be torpedoed immediately by bean counters. But maybe the G80 uses G20 headlights with this theoretical M specific grill, while the G82 uses G22 headlights with that same grill? Wild speculation on my part, but who knows? |
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Wasn't the unveiling of the G80 suppose to be at last week's Frankfurt Auto Show?
Anyone know why it was not? |
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Have they ever had the M3/4 coupe still in production when the new gen M3 sedan started production? That seems very odd.
based on this schedule they will be making both cars for about 3 months? Who is going to buy the old M4 at that point? Unless the new M3 with AWD and more power will be that much more expensive... Also seems like this will eat into potential X3M/X4M sales since the G80 will be AWD. I know I will wait now that its only 6 months away. |
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But, no, the subsequent generation M3 has never began production while the current generation M4 (or M3 Coupe) is also still in production. However, it had also never happened with the M5 and M6 until the latest generation. Quote:
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My assumption would be that they are trying to standardize the development cycle of all their products to be able to work to a single timeline for all programs.
It's apparent from the styling that BMW is trying to differentiate between the base 3 and 4 series more than before, so it's reasonable to assume they would do the same for the M. One big question I haven't seen the answer to: will the 3 series and 4 series continue to share a common wheelbase? The F82 was already a bit stretched-out looking for a sporty coupe. With the G20 wheelbase being nearly 2" longer than the F30, the proportions are just going to get worse.
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When will the F80 be revealed? If SOP is in March of 2020, and it's already getting toward the end of September of 2019, I thought it's suppose to be at the Frankfurt auto show?
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