What will you get instead of a G8x M3/M4?

Nativetexan · 05-18-2020, 07:47 PM

I'm going to get on the list for a G80 when it's available to sign up.

Looking back, I've personally never not liked a new M gen. I think designers are ahead of us in what the public likes and will soon accept.

BMW is not going to let the M3 flop. Ain't gonna happen!

But that's just like my opinion man 😎

CityLife · 05-27-2020, 12:49 AM

I've had various BMWs since college, and after 12 years I think I have finally outgrown the brand as I approach my mid 30s. The new M3/M4 grill is what did it for me, I assume BMW has done their research and I am just no longer in their target demographic.

This is probably the best and most robust car forum out there though, so I will stick around to see people do their European delivery blogs and delivery pictures, which I always look forward to. I have been spending more time on the Porsche forums, and I can say it will definitely not be the same. This forum has added a ton to the BMW ownership experience over the 10+ years I have lurked and been a member. I am embarrassed to admit how much time I have spent on here over the years, I am curious how many of the long term BMW owners (10+ consecutive years of ownership) will permanently leave the brand over a grill. Will we look back 10 years from now and classify BMW as pre and post grill?

MFNATIK · 05-27-2020, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CityLife

I've had various BMWs since college, and after 12 years I think I have finally outgrown the brand as I approach my mid 30s. The new M3/M4 grill is what did it for me, I assume BMW has done their research and I am just no longer in their target demographic.

This is probably the best and most robust car forum out there though, so I will stick around to see people do their European delivery blogs and delivery pictures, which I always look forward to. I have been spending more time on the Porsche forums, and I can say it will definitely not be the same. This forum has added a ton to the BMW ownership experience over the 10+ years I have lurked and been a member. I am embarrassed to admit how much time I have spent on here over the years, I am curious how many of the long term BMW owners (10+ consecutive years of ownership) will permanently leave the brand over a grill. Will we look back 10 years from now and classify BMW as pre and post grill?

Umm, I guess you haven't heard. BMW canned the Euro delivery program. So yeah, you can say BMW as a company has changed as well. Maybe they've outgrown us enthusiasts.

CityLife · 05-27-2020, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Umm, I guess you haven't heard. BMW canned the Euro delivery program. So yeah, you can say BMW as a company has changed as well. Maybe they've outgrown us enthusiasts.

Wow I guess I missed that news from a few weeks ago, just goes to show that I have been spending less time on here. I just read up on the reasoning for the cancellation of the program, and it being because they want to focus more on the U.S. built SUVs for US customers, man that is just adding insult to injury here. Yet another reason to jump to Porsche.

seis-speed · 05-28-2020, 12:39 AM

With no Euro Delivery - Blackwing CT5-V might be my next sedan.

Never would have considered the car, but now that I have studied it, I am very intrigued. Also, they might offer a sport-wagon, which would be amazing.

Here is a little clip....

speedmaster20d · 05-28-2020, 01:19 AM

If a recession hits the new M3 will have a tough time especially with that polarizing looks.
It would suck if they came out in 3 years and did a major ICL reverting back to a more conservative look. the early cars' value will be literally 0.

MFNATIK · 05-28-2020, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by speedmaster20d

If a recession hits the new M3 will have a tough time especially with that polarizing looks.
It would suck if they came out in 3 years and did a major ICL reverting back to a more conservative look. the early cars' value will be literally 0.

I feel like this is exactly what will happen. Don't let the stock market fool you, we're in a recession. Time to eat some crow BMW for losing your way.

solstice · 05-28-2020, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I feel like this is exactly what will happen. Don't let the stock market fool you, we're in a recession. Time to eat some crow BMW for losing your way.

The opposite is more likely. No one expects a car launched in a depression to be a success in sales. The people in charge for the G8X has the best excuse you can have when absolute numbers are low. Relative sales to competitors will matter and since I like the new design I doubt it will fair worse than earlier iteration vs direct competitors. I.e Model 3s and Taycans are not invited.

MFNATIK · 05-28-2020, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by solstice

The opposite is more likely. No one expects a car launched in a depression to be a success in sales. The people in charge for the G8X has the best excuse you can have when absolute numbers are low. Relative sales to competitors will matter and since I like the new design I doubt it will fair worse than earlier iteration vs direct competitors. I.e Model 3s and Taycans are not invited.

Then I hope you get a good deal on one bc I'm sure demand will be low

solstice · 05-28-2020, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Then I hope you get a good deal on one

You and me both.

19x · 05-31-2020, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by speedmaster20d

If a recession hits the new M3 will have a tough time especially with that polarizing looks.
It would suck if they came out in 3 years and did a major ICL reverting back to a more conservative look. the early cars' value will be literally 0.

If?

evanescent03 · 05-31-2020, 09:44 PM

Next phase of my plan has come together. Got a pickup to tow my track car and use as a daily since I'm moving to the Midwest from Northern California and it actually rains/snows out there.

Next phase is to trade my SS1LE for a Z06, GT4 or GT3. May also trade our Jeep for an M3 at that time.... so a G80 may still be in the cards.

JS_GT3RS · 06-04-2020, 09:42 PM

Alright it's time to go Porsche or Mercedes. Rip bmw

stein_325i · 06-04-2020, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chins.collection

Alright it's time to go Porsche or Mercedes. Rip bmw

I might even take a chance and go for Alfa

ferrarifast · 06-04-2020, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chins.collection

Alright it's time to go Porsche or Mercedes. Rip bmw

Not a chance, MB is going 4cyl for the next AMG C63.

Porsche it is

JS_GT3RS · 06-04-2020, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarifast

Not a chance, MB is going 4cyl for the next AMG C63.

Porsche it is

Completely forgot about that with MB. Porsche is about to have a mass exodus of BMW customers coming to them now.

Fuller · 06-04-2020, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarifast

Not a chance, MB is going 4cyl for the next AMG C63.

Porsche it is

It's like bmw and MB are competing over who can screw up worse.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 06-04-2020, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrarifast

Not a chance, MB is going 4cyl for the next AMG C63.

Porsche it is

I've heard conflicting rumors. Some say it's keeping the V8. We'll have to wait and see.

seis-speed · 06-11-2020, 01:07 PM

New Ford Bronco is confirmed to have a 6speed manual. I know apples to oranges, but not necessarily.....when Porsche did a study on Caymans that were traded into dealers, thinking they were buying another sports car, to their surprise, the vehicle replacement most often was a 6MT Jeep Wrangler.

Ragged Edge · 06-12-2020, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m630

Genuine question here, about your confusion. If there is another option to the manual 'pure' M3, please enlighten us! It needs:
4 doors (for kids in the back)
Large boot (trunk) for shopping and trips
MANUAL Transmission
400hp +
Track reliability re: brakes, suspension, motor
Warranty

stein_325i · 06-12-2020, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Edge

Genuine question here, about your confusion. If there is another option to the manual 'pure' M3, please enlighten us! It needs:
4 doors (for kids in the back)
Large boot (trunk) for shopping and trips
MANUAL Transmission
400hp +
Track reliability re: brakes, suspension, motor
Warranty

Cadillac CT4/5-Blackwing

spuntyb · 06-15-2020, 07:00 AM

M5 and X3M are top of my list now, but I may go nuts and buy out my F80 lease. Thing is gorgeous, tuned, and hasn't let me down even once.

View Poll Results: My choice for a G8X M3/M4 alternative will be a:
Mercedes	56	9.82%
Porsche	267	46.84%
Audi	42	7.37%
Tesla	40	7.02%
Chevrolet Corvette C8	53	9.30%
Other	91	15.96%
A different BMW	21	3.68%
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Nativetexan First Lieutenant 306 Rep 344 Posts Drives: 2018 F80 ZCP Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	I'm going to get on the list for a G80 when it's available to sign up. Looking back, I've personally never not liked a new M gen. I think designers are ahead of us in what the public likes and will soon accept. BMW is not going to let the M3 flop. Ain't gonna happen! But that's just like my opinion man 😎
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CityLife Second Lieutenant 198 Rep 199 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M3 [0.00]	I've had various BMWs since college, and after 12 years I think I have finally outgrown the brand as I approach my mid 30s. The new M3/M4 grill is what did it for me, I assume BMW has done their research and I am just no longer in their target demographic. This is probably the best and most robust car forum out there though, so I will stick around to see people do their European delivery blogs and delivery pictures, which I always look forward to. I have been spending more time on the Porsche forums, and I can say it will definitely not be the same. This forum has added a ton to the BMW ownership experience over the 10+ years I have lurked and been a member. I am embarrassed to admit how much time I have spent on here over the years, I am curious how many of the long term BMW owners (10+ consecutive years of ownership) will permanently leave the brand over a grill. Will we look back 10 years from now and classify BMW as pre and post grill? Last edited by CityLife; 05-27-2020 at 12:56 AM..
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seis-speed #savethemanuals 2431 Rep 1,969 Posts Drives: 1M \| GT3 \| J392 \| GRc Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Coast iTrader: (0)	With no Euro Delivery - Blackwing CT5-V might be my next sedan. Never would have considered the car, but now that I have studied it, I am very intrigued. Also, they might offer a sport-wagon, which would be amazing. Here is a little clip....
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evanescent03 Lieutenant Colonel 1032 Rep 1,997 Posts Drives: '24 M3 CS; '22 GT4 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	Next phase of my plan has come together. Got a pickup to tow my track car and use as a daily since I'm moving to the Midwest from Northern California and it actually rains/snows out there. Next phase is to trade my SS1LE for a Z06, GT4 or GT3. May also trade our Jeep for an M3 at that time.... so a G80 may still be in the cards. __________________ Gone but not forgotten: '09 STi // '08 335i // '02 M3 // '11 335i // '15 M3 // '16 M3 // '16 Camaro SS // '16 Audi S3 // '18 Boxster 718S // '17 Camaro SS 1LE // '16 M6 GC CP
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