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As a millennial city dweller, I actually don't mind the range on this. For me, it'd be enough for driving in the city every day. And since every apartment building here has electric charging, I could charge every day overnight. Weekend r trips would also be easy since it takes gas; a quick fill up and I'd be off. Frankly, it's a great compromise for me.
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My question on these PHEVs is always what happens if the owner never charges it? Does the owners manual say you'll cause some issue (like battery degradation) over the long term you didn't charge it and treated it like a normal ICE-only car? Does it just become an extra-heavy ICE-powered car?
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People criticising this cars range are missing the point of this car.
It's not an EV. It's a PHEV. It looks to give a user the best of both worlds. Many users successfully rarely fill this model with fuel unless they have long commutes. However on those longer journeys it gives you zero range anxiety. It's design is the stepping stone into full EV.
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If they had the tech to do it they might offer the hint of something similar but they're already 5-10 years behind compared to other EV companies. They're still perfecting it after multiple years of working on it. I'm not hopeful in their ability to catch up.
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This is pretty good and offers great flexibility. I just don't like the added weight since it wrecks the handling. I'm too critical of this compared to something like the gas variants. The MPG savings and initial cost isn't worth the performance loss and lower power.
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People talk about PHEV having a big ICE to lug around, but what about an all-electric car lugging around VERY heavy batteries that they don't need 95% of the time? As always, there are many individual needs, of which the 330e satisfies some. |
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Just as reference the average driver in Europe drives 50km per day hence why most current hybrids are at that range.
My MPG was at 140+mpg (driving at given speed limits) on my daily commute(50km total) since I got it. Now that I have been hooning it mainly 402m runs I am at 30mpg. I would say it's a nice compromise for the ones who drive mainly in the city or suburban areas. But if you drive fast then it's better to get a full EV then you don't have to consider the range (of course depending on how long your daily commute is) |
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I personally think PHEV's are better suited to SUV's, the new X5 45e seems like it will be a better buy in electric form, as it offers many benefits over the 40i trim. A 330e vs 30i however doesn't really offer as many benefits, and the 30i has already been able to reach 40+mpg by some, making it already pretty efficient.
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The complexity of BMW's hybrid system and long term maintenance is not idea. Might as well make it an EV with a REx like the i3 until they get a proper battery supplier.
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You guys keep forgetting, that the US isn't the only country on the earth. The target group for BMW's PHEVs are Europeans, which makes sense, because they sell over 50% of their PHEVs there. Since it's a fully developed car, they just throw it on the US market anyway and every sold car is a bonus.
In Europe 50km of range is more than enough, distances are far shorter in general. Even if you live in a major city, like BMW's HQ Munich, 50km is enough to get to work and back on a single charge, even if you live on the other side of the city. I'm driving an X5 PHEV and filled it up twice since I got it a couple months back, saving hundreds (~€500) in tax as well as gas (can charge for free at work) per month! |
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Id only get it if it was a manual gearbox and electric. If it can simulate gear changes with a clutch and the electric motor powering up more after every gear shift then maybe ill get it. Also it should go more eco if i short shift it as well as use up the battery when i stay in gear longer and press the throttle more.
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Completely seamless power delivery. And a reduction gear. That's it.
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