G22 4 Series M Sport With Black / Cerium Grey Grilles and Cognac Interior

Doctor///M · 09-07-2020, 08:34 PM

Good. I didn't have to say for myself for another strike before being banned (no idea what's wrong with the world today).

White340 · 09-07-2020, 09:20 PM

Rear is super wide and flat looking. Looks awkward.

alexmorphy · 09-07-2020, 10:20 PM

it will be very ugly in the US with front lisence, it is mandatory in California now

Sedan_Clan · 09-07-2020, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alexmorphy

it will be very ugly in the US with front lisence, it is mandatory in California now

It has been mandatory since 1959; modified slightly in 2003, but it's nothing new.

PARTS@STBMW · 09-07-2020, 11:15 PM

Not bad

440xiGCMSport2 · 09-08-2020, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by buckybadger

I like the bold look.... I think the grill is good, maybe I'm a exception. This is a revolutionary design with BMW elements.

I, for one, am not at all surprised after seeing your screen name...

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GerryM5 · 09-08-2020, 12:22 AM

The CA DMV is going to sell a lot of personalized black license plates.

pinco000 · 09-08-2020, 05:27 AM

Im gonna repeat myself and add to it. The black grill does not save this tragedy. To add, the wheels design is a cherry on top of all of it. Just horrible!

Black.m3 · 09-08-2020, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Belugs

Man...BMW really fk'd up the front of the 4series! Even a blacked out everything can't fix this fk up!

So true, that's my thought also 👌🏻

J-RO · 09-08-2020, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

Unfortunately nobody cares about coupes in general these days. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the last 4 Series coupe.

If they are going to build them that this then good riddance!

pnice1p · 09-08-2020, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pinco000

Im gonna repeat myself and add to it. The black grill does not save this tragedy. To add, the wheels design is a cherry on top of all of it. Just horrible!

Agreed, I was holding out hope for the new M3/M4 but when they pulled the trigger on the ugly grill I jumped ship. I got a 2020 RS3. Im gonna wait to see if LCI corrects this buck- toothed beaver.

iM3an · 09-08-2020, 08:37 AM

it definitely looks better all black. The real issue is the non m sport models. the front doesn't match anything else on the car.

White340 · 09-08-2020, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GuyOh

Is there no option to have the grill completely all black?

The M Performance Parts grill will become available at launch of the G22 in October. It is all gloss black mesh with a carbon fiber surround. No word yet on the cost.

The OEM grill is a way to boost m performance grill sales numbers. That'll be an extra 1k profit for them as dealers order all their cars to help boost sales. 🙂

Frosty · 09-08-2020, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EXE46

Are we not their biggest market? Even our Canadian neighbors gets more love. No red leather, no black trim kit for 2020MY when folks in the north country had access to all that.

...China now perhaps?

Frosty · 09-08-2020, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RinconHeat

What an absolute mess. These are dark days for BMW designs indeed. I think these awful exteriors are manifestations of the overall confusion and uncertainty brought about by BMW being forced to adopt a platform (electrification) it thought it could ignore- the ugliness, the disjoint lines and abandonment of classic cues all represent the chaos brought on by conflicting automotive philosophies and brand confusion....

Or Domagoj Dukec just really sucks at creating pleasing car design....

If they fire him and get straight with emergent technology they may manage to keep enthusiast business- I'm sorry, a MT and RWD are truly fantastic but not when the exterior is sickening...

Sadly the 4 series below M has no 6MT.... my gamble is the G80-82 will be the last Manual 4/3 Series

Frosty · 09-08-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Belugs

New M4 definitely won't be able to compete with the new Audi RS5 on looks with that beaver-tooth grill. M4 design team needs to get chopped!

Can you get a 6MT in an RS5?

stein_325i · 09-08-2020, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

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Originally Posted by Belugs

New M4 definitely won't be able to compete with the new Audi RS5 on looks with that beaver-tooth grill. M4 design team needs to get chopped!

[COLOR="SeaGreen"]Can you get a 6MT in an RS5?[/COLOR]

No but the original post was purely based on design it says.

123sub · 09-08-2020, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Sadly the 4 series below M has no 6MT.... my gamble is the G80-82 will be the last Manual 4/3 Series

I think you are spot on there. It is up to US buyers. It is because of US there is a manual option in M2/3/4 after E9X. They /(almost)dont not buy these car with MT in Europe. And my guess is that the Mustang will be the very last of all cars with MT.

Alan l. · 09-08-2020, 10:52 AM

Still ugly no matter what color its painted.

VetteGuy · 09-08-2020, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 123sub

I think you are spot on there. It is up to US buyers. It is because of US there is a manual option in M2/3/4 after E9X. They /(almost)dont not buy these car with MT in Europe. And my guess is that the Mustang will be the very last of all cars with MT.

I’m pretty sure you’ll see no new BMW with a MT in as few as 6-7 years, especially with their massive commitment to EV over the next 4-5 years. It’s just the evolution of the industry. Probably no new cars with MT in the US at all by then.

123sub · 09-08-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by VetteGuy

I’m pretty sure you’ll see no new BMW with a MT in as few as 6-7 years, especially with their massive commitment to EV over the next 4-5 years. It’s just the evolution of the industry. Probably no new cars with MT in the US at all by then.

I guess the very last BMW with MT will be the next M2. All of them(M2/3/4) after next generation will be hybrid and AT. When we enter 2030, i guess there will be no more MT cars to buy, but as i said, my guess is that the Mustang will be the very last. BMW also have to sell EV cars. As long as the petrol/diesel cars cost less than hybrid/EV, many will not buy them. EV is not green at all....

BigKutta · 09-08-2020, 12:06 PM

The rear of the new BMWs is what I really don't like at all. So japanesey

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