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      07-17-2020, 02:34 AM   #705
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Can't wait to see this form as the GT3 contender next year... not to mention the DTM racer. These cars will have presence like no other.
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      07-17-2020, 02:54 AM   #706
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any info about the LCI yet?
H82 spotted in heavy camo on the ring.
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      07-17-2020, 04:48 AM   #707
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I am still a bit insecure with respect to the vertical arranged slats of the "lungs", but on the other hand a horizontol layout would not match at all into the design conecpt IMO. Overall the latest catch of the US version appears very promising to me.
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      07-17-2020, 05:14 AM   #708
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As for the length and wheelbase, there is only so much the M GmbH can work with. There is first the series car that needs to be as big as they believe mass audience will like, no consideration given to the M variant whatsoever. Then the M division will see what they can do from there.

The M is not and will never be built the way they were before. First few generations, the M car was for Motorsport homologation purpose, literally race car being built backwards to road car form, and thus legitimately stand for "Motorsport". Every generation, the M lost the Motorsport-ness a bit. From the F8X on, the M is purely one version of sportiness treatment given to a luxury compact family sedan, and has the best in class marketing drive it.

BMW is pretty good, in fact better than anyone else, in doing this. Maybe they're just too good and that's exactly why today there is no standalone M sports car - when there is only so much resource and budget, they have to go to the most profitable business - M treatment to a family sedan/coupe.

Personally I wouldn't complain about the dimension of the car. I have this mindset - if I ever purchase one G80/82, it will be the replacement for my 540i as the daily commuter and the grocery getter. How great that would be! In the end, satisfaction is all about expectation management.
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Aside from the hideously exaggerated twin kidney grille—-this car looks 0% like a BMW. It's also very bloated.
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For some reason it looks worse than the european model. cannot put my finger on it. grills are weirder or overall shape looks like its sagging.
Likely lens distortion because I agree it looks more "flattened"
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      07-17-2020, 08:49 AM   #711
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Your very much appreciated SCOTT26 , thank you for your insight. You can't please everyone. Too much negative energy regarding the G22/23/G80/82/83. In life you can't please everyone, as some are born to complain for life. Accept the change, otherwise life will blow past ya.
Decent life advice but not so good for car buying unless we're talking about seismic shifts like the eventual electrification of all drivetrains. There's no need to accept a change you don't like on a new model when there are loads of good alternatives out there.

For me I'll skip this generation and see what else they come up with in the future.
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Your very much appreciated SCOTT26 , thank you for your insight. You can't please everyone. Too much negative energy regarding the G22/23/G80/82/83. In life you can't please everyone, as some are born to complain for life. Accept the change, otherwise life will blow past ya.
Horrible advice, no one needs to accept anything they do not like.
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If that’s where we are with the whining now, the winds are changing
Not sure I like the term "whining"...but maybe you are making it in jest. My issue with the reflector is not a new one...some dumb ass in the gov't somehow decided that requiring a front yellow reflector was going to make us all safer on the roads. Is that REALLY what keeps us safe at night on the roads? Please.
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      07-17-2020, 10:23 AM   #715
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Those offending grills deserve a class action!
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      07-17-2020, 10:57 AM   #716
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My friend and I are both F80 owners. Both of us were planning on buying the G80. Not after we found out about the grill. Good job BMW!
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      07-17-2020, 11:27 AM   #717
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My friend and I are both F80 owners. Both of us were planning on buying the G80. Not after we found out about the grill. Good job BMW!
Cut off the nose to spite the face.... nice. Don't worry, this car will sell very well without you.
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Can't wait to see this form as the GT3 contender next year... not to mention the DTM racer. These cars will have presence like no other.
Yeah, they'll have a presence alright
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      07-17-2020, 01:12 PM   #719
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But wasn't this original spy shot different?
I still have that feeling now too, the grills look taller and skinnier in that shot. Maybe its just the angle
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      07-17-2020, 01:20 PM   #720
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My friend and I are both F80 owners. Both of us were planning on buying the G80. Not after we found out about the grill. Good job BMW!
One of you two will but a G8x.
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Horrible advice, no one needs to accept anything they do not like.
Choosing not to accept it doesn't change the fact it is the reality. One should accept the reality of any given situation. That is excellent life advice.
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Choosing not to accept it doesn't change the fact it is the reality. One should accept the reality of any given situation. That is excellent life advice.
Choosing not to accept it means moving to another brand. It really is that simple
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Choosing not to accept it means moving to another brand. It really is that simple
If that's how you define acceptance. I see it as accepting the grilles and BMW's new direction and choosing to spend your money elsewhere....


....after having accepted the reality of the larger grilles. That's all SCOTT26 is trying to say.
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Choosing not to accept it means moving to another brand. It really is that simple
If that's how you define acceptance. I see it as accepting the grilles and BMW's new direction and choosing to spend your money elsewhere....


....after having accepted the reality of the larger grilles. That's all SCOTT26 is trying to say.
You are talking about accepting the grill as the design choice of bmw. We've known about the coffin grills for the longest time, nothing new to accept.

Will you accept the car as a viable option for space in your garage if you are unhappy with the design is the question.
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      07-17-2020, 01:43 PM   #725
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If that's how you define acceptance. I see it as accepting the grilles and BMW's new direction and choosing to spend your money elsewhere....


....after having accepted the reality of the larger grilles. That's all SCOTT26 is trying to say.
Exactly, accepting is not agreeing. Make your point of disagreement but then accept it as reality and make your decision and move forward. That is good life advice. Lingering in anger is not helping your situation.
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      07-17-2020, 02:43 PM   #726
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Haters please keep hating.

I can't wait to clean up with an un sold Pre Reg car from the U.K. even earlier

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