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I have never owned a new BMW ever. always purchased CPO except for the 14 x5 I have now and a 11 335 vert. I have owned about 13 BMW'S and am lurking around on this board until I purchase again. I am really considering new this time and am selling my 7 series. I had my mind set on a M340i but recently started pricing 18 or 19 M5.
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I had an M340i on order and ended up picking up a Genesis G70 Sport this week because it had so much better feel and cost 20k less. Not to mention it looks better. Winning. |
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Steering feel is about the only thing the G70 does better than the M340i, and looks are subjective so... I never liked the look of the G70 (the refresh on the other hand looks quite nice).
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Not sure if I'm missing something but aren't they somewhat similarly priced? The 3.3 G70 Sport is around 54K, and thats without wheels since I couldn't find the option. I do love the look of the G70 though, I think they really did a great job with that design.
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The Kia has IMO better low / mid delivery which as a road car translates to more useable scenario's. It has more kit as standard, a far better stereo, logical setup modes (like smart), their ICE works properly and in terms of reliability / warranty if one does decide to buy long term then Kia's in front. Also I couldn't tell the difference between their ISG and a ZF 8AT (apparently they've fixed a few things on later models). Whilst flashier the G20 does feel rather cheap in areas for the premium they're asking, tax for the KIA is cheaper over here and resale values are better adjusting GMFV therefore making leases far more palatable. Then again in my subjective opinion this is where the M340i wins, if you want AWD over here well you're outta luck (I don't but many seem to like or need it), fuel economy is very much lacking comparatively (if that's an actual issue on an expensive 350+ HP car), it's a big car and weighs another 100KG's over the BMW (that's for RWD, the AWD must be a bit of a whale). They have obviously engineered it to try and defy the laws of physics, whilst impressive in delivery you can't actually defy physics.. So, it does feel nimble yet very heavy (oxymoron I know but the sensation is there). The 6K servicing schedule pretty much makes it a no go for long distance drivers, the rear window is really just for show and I won't deny it as a package I think the BMW is more aesthetically pleasing (even if the KIA looks mean from the side / back).. Although it could be worse (4 series).. Ultimately they are both stunning cars, not perfect (no car is) and it is a matter of nit picking opinion.. I seriously wouldn't write either off.! I just preferred the Kia, we need two cars so I still picked up a G20 330i as nothing besides BMW and a single Kia was worth shouting about. Last edited by Firaxis; 09-11-2020 at 09:42 AM.. |
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I'll tell you now though the GTS 3.3 V6 ISG auto has ZERO lag at any pace. The whole point of a twin turbo is to remove turbo lag so is there something wrong with your friends car?! Mine is on the boil constantly, a slip blip of the throttle and the back end wants to swing out. The suspension is firm but never crashy enabling travel over our crappy roads without upsetting progression. Also the steering is light but there are no dead spots.! Don't get me wrong the Jag XE on a dual wishbone suspension setup I had previously would run rings around both of them in the handling department. |
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You're acting like the M340i has another 100HP on top of it, I honestly could not tell the difference between any ZF and ISG, I've owned an M140i, 335d, 330d, 340i and a G20 330i so I'm fairy used to them. Anyway, you're not going to change my opinion and vice versa so I'll just wish you well with your M340i.. |
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Exactly. There is lag (not a ton but it's there for sure). The Stinger and G70 felt like the Audi S4/5 was there benchmark and they did well, but the M340i outpaces it in almost every respect.
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M340 is the better drivers car versus the Kia. Better brakes, better transmission and significantly faster despite what it says on paper. G70 is the better drivers car than the Stinger and the only advantage G70 has over M340i is the slightly better steering response. M340i still kills it in performance so not sure how Kia Stinger is on par with an M340i.
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Ill probably only have it a year or so until I get a G80 M3. |
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There are tangible data out there that refutes your claim. M340i will always pull the faster lap time against the G70, not to mention the Kia. Enjoy your car no need to bad mouth ours you don't see us on Kia forums talking trash. There is no metric with tangible data showing the G70 or the stinger is superior to the M340i. Nada, zilch, on the contrary even YouTube refutes your claim regarding performance stats.
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G70 $42k M340i $59k So $17k difference not $20k. My bad. |
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As I said above the M340i is faster no denying that. The G70 just feels better to me. I like feedback. Pretty sure they kinda said the same thing? And sorry man not trying to poo on your car. Its a fine car I just wanted most of its capabilities for cheaper cost. |
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Not just C&D , for example, look at trackday tv times for M340i and Kia. Again many tangible sources with legit lap times that will tell you the M340i capability.
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Totally agree with Burrcold and Exe46. I had a G70 for 4 days and it was a fantastic car. I loved the looks too. I thought I was going to buy it and then I drove the M340. To me it was a far better car in almost every way. I noticed almost immediately and it had to be much better as after discounts I paid Aud 30k more for it than the G70. I am no badge snob, if the G70 was closer to the M340 I would have bought it.
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