[MichaelB1969]

Originally Posted by chris3g

i will say though that having both a 6MT and a comp xdrive G80, the comp does feel quite a bit faster even though my 6MT measures faster (stock vs modded at the moment). I'm not exactly sure what creates that sensation, probably a combination of things which have mostly been mentioned already.

That feeling probably has a lot to do with the 8-speed.

[Limegrntaln]

You might want to try going fbo. Believe it or not, the Eventuri intake definitely feels like it livens up the throttle response. I don't have anything else installed to compare, but, the downpipes, midpipe and maybe even the exhaust, may give you that 15-25hp bump that you're looking for. Eventuri "claims" 13-17hp, if I'm not mistaken.

[vasillalov]

They guy wants a B58 with a low end torque.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by AudiConvert

Manual is what makes this car special in my opinion.

I'm talking about how to drive the car (what's the ideal rev range, etc.) to make it feel quicker rather than doing modifications. Sorry if my question wasn't clear.

Not sure I get what you are asking for here. Its nearly a 3800 lb car with only 406 lb of tq. Its not a car where the manual can hold a candle to the ZF car from a speed perspective. I know someone was joking when they said "get a comp", but i think thats the right answer. Get an M2 CS if you want a faster feeling manual car.

If you want a faster G8x car, get a CS or CSL. The CSL is like "time-travel" fast in gear and the ZF is super tactile. I don't miss a manual at all.

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by svgM3

What you seem to be looking for is taller gearing to have it rev slower. That would mean less low end torque though and an even more gradual build of power. I used to have a golf r as well and it was a little punchier in the mid range (not as much as a gti with its baby turbo) but definitely doesn’t have the high end power of s58. I think maybe you need to shift your mindset of what you are looking for in power delivery. Basically coming to appreciate power building. It’s different and I like it more. Way more satisfying than a hit of power that dies off a the top

Yup!

I had an MK7 GTI 6MT it felt very punchy down low with torque. Test drove the Golf R and it felt slower. (Knowing full well it’s actually faster than my GTI)

I’ve had some run ins with M340. They jump out then I real them back in very easy and pull away no problem.

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Not sure I get what you are asking for here. Its nearly a 3800 lb car with only 406 lb of tq. Its not a car where the manual can hold a candle to the ZF car from a speed perspective. I know someone was joking when they said "get a comp", but i think thats the right answer. Get an M2 CS if you want a faster feeling manual car.

If you want a faster G8x car, get a CS or CSL. The CSL is like "time-travel" fast in gear and the ZF is super tactile. I don't miss a manual at all.

My Nissan Altima is automatic.

[ottm3]

Originally Posted by flsupraguy

Just do a fetmo unlock with bootmod3 ots tune. Completely transforms the car. Auto is for girls.

This must be one of those male chauvinist who think they are superior just because they drive stick shift

[DO444]

Originally Posted by AudiConvert

Thank you! I think you described what I was trying to say a lot better. It’s the low end torquiness that I’m missing. Sometimes you just want to have that feeling of being pinned to your seat. I guess it’s 70ish pound ft difference between base vs. comp showing its presence here because everyone says the comp and especially xdrive versions go like a rocket.

They do.

[Allerum]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

The gear ratios are relatively short on the G8X 6MT, which is why their review was puzzling. The other issue with their review was "demonstrating" turbo lag when pulling from 4th gear at a low speed. No shit.... that's true of ANY car, automatic or manual if it's not allowed to downshift. The car needs to downshift for optimal power. When you mash the throttle in an automatic.... it downshifts for you... that's why it's an automatic.

If anything turbo lag is better mitigated with the manual because you have more control over the gears... which is why Randy Pobst posted a better lap time at VIR with the 6MT vs. the 8AT. The 8AT was refusing to downshift at a critical corner, costing it time on exit.

What OP is talking about is the availability of low-down torque - and that's an inherent "issue" in the S58 regardless of 6MT or comp trim. Torque with this motor is naturally more progressive, so you don't feel the traditional down-low pin to your seat sensation that turbo-charged cars are typically known for. Yes, there's an obvious difference in torque between the 6MT and the comp model (no denying the extra 70 lb-ft), but if you're expecting that push you back into your seat at low speeds feeling similar to what you might get from the b58 in the m340i.... neither the 6MT nor the comp model will give you that. These cars live in the top end, because on a track, that's what makes power delivery more predictable and manageable.

I think Randy was sandbagging the 8AT. Or that corner just didn't slot as nice with the ratios. Espesically XDrive would leave the 6mt on a course. The Ratios of the 6 speed are close together but they are all too tall since they are for autobahn and track speeds. For the USA we need a shorter 1 to 4 and longer 5 and 6. Because the comp gets more shifts below jail speeds it feels like its going faster to the driver in addition to being actually faster. But you can enjoy more gears at less jail speeds with the 8AT since it has more gears.

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by AudiConvert

I know, just trying to be polite. People on internet are easily agitated so I just wanna be as nice as I can.

What a nice, dare I say, unique perspective.

Originally Posted by AudiConvert

Sometimes you just want to have that feeling of being pinned to your seat.

Originally Posted by chris3g

... if the car revved slower it would BE slower, it's not like the speed at which the engine RPM increases is some separate thing that can be altered.

Well said (written). I think, and I'm just guessing here, that the OP got used to the rather peaky engine response of the VW, and the smooth linear feel of the BMW makes him think that it's not as powerful a feeling.

Originally Posted by ottm3

This must be one of those male chauvinist who think they are superior just because they drive stick shift

We are.


OP, you want to feel some torque? Take the car onto a race track, go 125 in 4th and upshift to 5th. Even with the incredible amount of wind resistance and all of the other forces against the car, it will still push you against the seat.

[jmg]

Pulls in a straight line are fun, but you can only do so much with how fast these cars already are. Coupled with the fact that you simply get used to your car, the honeymoon phase can't last forever. This is why people dump money into power mods. The problem is we simply get used to that too.

To me, driver mod is the most rewarding mod, with brakes and handling being next, and power mods being all the way at the bottom.

The catch is that it's almost impossible to drive this car at the limit on the street, no matter how hard you think you are pushing it.

[MichaelB1969]

Originally Posted by jmg

Pulls in a straight line are fun, but you can only do so much with how fast these cars already are. Coupled with the fact that you simply get used to your car, the honeymoon phase can't last forever. This is why people dump money into power mods. The problem is we simply get used to that too.

To me, driver mod is the most rewarding mod, with brakes and handling being next, and power mods being all the way at the bottom.

The catch is that it's almost impossible to drive this car at the limit on the street, no matter how hard you think you are pushing it.

I absolutely, totally, 100% agree with this. It's similar to how people develop tolerance to drugs and need more to continue to get the high they are seeking.

The fact is that you get used to straight line speed really fast (pun intended).

Most drivers can't extract more than 80% of what the car is capable, period. And those that can simply cannot do so on the street.

So chasing more and more speed simply makes no sense to me, unless you are going to frequently track it. And if so, to your point, your #1 mod is enhancing your driving skill.

And if you continue to extract more power from the engine, you are going to be left with inadequate braking and handling capabilities, so also to your point, would make sense to improve both before adding more power.

[Shaneartistry]

Sure, the 6MT isn’t as punchy as the X comp, but there’s something very satisfying about nailing those shift from 2nd, 3rd, and 4th when you’re in the high RPM band on the interstate.

[Allerum]

Originally Posted by Shaneartistry

Sure, the 6MT isn’t as punchy as the X comp, but there’s something very satisfying about nailing those shift from 2nd, 3rd, and 4th when you’re in the high RPM band on the interstate.

But that was his issue. You can go to jail for the top of 3rd let alone 4th. So you get two shifts 1 to 2 and to 3 and your done.

[Rono63]

Let Randy Pobst drive while you sit in the passenger seat

[RACE M3]

It’s super smooth and confidence inspiring. I understand what you’re saying but that’s the beauty of these cars.

[M_Tune]

Originally Posted by AudiConvert

I agree, it's definitely a shift in mindset coming from Audi/VW hot hatches and compacts.

To the Golf R’s credit it moves out with urgency at lower revs and still manages to give a linear buildup of power all the way to redline. I don’t think they are mutually exclusive.

[AudiConvert]

Originally Posted by Rono63

Let Randy Pobst drive while you sit in the passenger seat

That'd awesome for sure.

[AudiConvert]

Originally Posted by RACE M3

It’s super smooth and confidence inspiring. I understand what you’re saying but that’s the beauty of these cars.

The straight six is indeed very very smooth, definitely something I have come to love.

[moonluv810]

If what you’re looking for is enjoying full powerband and redlining around town without breaking laws, what you need is a less powerful car, rather than more power. Probably an NA or a small displacement turbocharged car. You could then wring out the engine all the time and enjoy the powerband, first through third gear, possibly fourth in highway without breaking the law.

Any car with more than 300HP, if we want to be honest to ourselves, have too much power than what we need to go around town in a civilized manner.

M cars really shine on track and the G8X has now become a luxury authoban cruiser.

[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by AudiConvert

My G82 6MT overall has been great so far. Great cornering, AEWSOME top end, the engine just keeps on pulling even at well above highway speed. There is, however, a problem. At say 35mph, if I floor the car in second gear, the rev just shoots up way too fast and I don't really get the sensation of a 470hp car. To me honestly it doesn't really FEEL that much quicker than the Golf R I had a few years ago although it is in fact a lot quicker.
Looking for advices on how to best feel the car's acceleration at semi-legal speeds. Thanks.

Wait what? That’s literally the best gear to hit it on the manual G80/G82. First does not hook and is super short.

What are your performance settings set at? If you’re not on MDM or DSC off you’ll likely have traction control kicking in throughout the pull which will definitely feel slower.

Try Sports plus with MDM mode in M1 and DSC off in M2. (Just be careful in M2)

My car spins in second and hazes the tires in 3rd gear depending on conditions. These things can trap 121 in the quarter mile with a good driver and conditions. (My previous ‘21 G82 manual and current ‘22 M3 manual are both the same so it’s not a “ringer” car)

[GiddyUpM4re]

Originally Posted by flsupraguy

Just do a fetmo unlock with bootmod3 ots tune. Completely transforms the car. Auto is for girls.

Auto isn’t for all girls.
Although this girl sometimes wishes she was in an automatic so i could smash the pedal down when the light turn green. I just can’t shift that fast and i really hate the 1st to 2nd zone. But once I’m in 2nd, she really moves out.