05-05-2024, 03:43 AM | #1 |
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Buying '71 G20 M340i MHT - Advice
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A bit of background: We currently have a 2006 E90 330i (n52) that we've owned for the last 11 years. We've been through all the challenges on that model and it works perfectly fine - still a pleasure to drive. The only issue is the hydraulic steering is little tough for the missus (after driving a Golf mk7 for 5 years) and the kids need more room in the back. I managed to convince the family to go for a G20 instead of a Volvo XC60 as we don't have prams etc. Also, I don't know Volvo's and am worried the online support network is not as vast as the BMW network. We test drove our first G20 yesterday and ended up leaving a deposit as the family felt the car was much smoother than the E90 and it had enough space + seats fold down. I also didn't want to lose this particular car as it has many extra compared to others out there inc. sunroof which I have not had for 20 years! The G20 has 35k on the clock, one owner and comes with 1 year warranty, breakdown and warranty. We've opted for the ceramic coating, paint cover, alloy wheel cover and tyre cover for another £2k. We felt it's worth taking this as we live in London and should hopefully make use of it. Does anyone have any experience with any of the covers listed above and is there anything I should be asking the main dealer to do before I take delivery of the vehicle? Appreciate the latter is a broad question and appreciate any advice from others who have this model and/or purchased a used model from the main dealer. Re: warranty - Never had it before, which items can you get done at local garages without invalidating warranty? It's been 11 years since I changed cars and tech has moved on significantly so I'm somewhat frightened by all the threads I've read on issues on these models. I'm hoping most issues are resolved now the car is 2.5 years old and will keep the warranty for the next 3/4 years at least. Thanks in advance. Last edited by PPK; 05-05-2024 at 05:57 AM.. |
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BTW here is the spec sheet, is it missing anything?
Ordered Options 01CB ACEA/CO2 Coding 01CE Mild Hybrid Technology 01DF EU6 RDE II exhaust emissions standard 01PP 19" 791 M Double-spoke Jet Black Alloy Wheels with RFT 02PA Security Wheel Bolts 02VB Tyre Pressure Sensors 02VF M Adaptive Suspension 0230 EU specific equipment 0248 Heated Steering Wheel 0258 Run-flat Tyres 03BE Black mirror caps 03KA Acoustic glass 03MF BMW Individual Lights Shadow Line 03M2 M Sport Brakes with Red Calipers 0302 Alarm System 0316 Electric Bootlid 032Z Digital Key Deletion 0322 Comfort Access 033T M Technology Pack 04AW Sensatec Dashboard 04GQ M Sport Seat Belts 04MC Carbon Fibre Interior Trim 04NE Blow-by heater 04UR Ambient Lighting 0403 Electric Glass Sunroof 0420 Sun Protection Glass 0428 Warning Triangle 0430 Folding Wing Mirrors with Auto-dimming 0431 Rear-view Mirror with Auto dimming 0459 Electric Memory Seats 0465 Split Folding Rear Seats 0488 Front Lumbar Support 0493 Additional Storage Compartment 0494 Front Heated Seats 05AC High-Beam Assistant 05AQ Active Guard Plus 05AU Driving Assistant Professional 05AZ Laserlights 05DA Passenger airbag deactivation, front 05DC Rear Folding Headrests 05DN Parking Assistant Plus 06AE BMW TeleServices 06AF BMW Emergency Call 06AK BMW Online Services 06C4 Connected Package Pro 06DR Drive Recorder 06U3 Live Cockpit Professional 06U8 Gesture Control 0610 Head-Up Display 0654 DAB Radio 0688 Harman/Kardon Surround Sound Audio System 07M9 BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line with extended contents 0711 Front M Sport Seats 08KA Oil-maintenance interval 24 months/30,000 km 08R9 Refrigerant 08SM External Visible VIN 08S2 Coding of alarm siren (time limit) 08S3 Auto drive away locking 08TF Active Pedestrian Safety 08TG Dead-Locking Function 08TR Decoding additional functions 0812 GB Specification 0850 Add Fuel for Export Cars 0880 English Handbook Standard Options 02TB Sport Automatic Transmission with Gearshift Paddles 02T4 M Sport Differential 02VL Variable Sport Steering 0534 Automatic Air Conditioning 0710 M Sport Leather Steering Wheel 0715 M Sport Exterior Styling 0754 M Sport Spoiler 0760 High-gloss Shadowline Exterior Trim 0775 Anthracite Headlining 08EK Control body 0853 Instrument Panel Letter |
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05-05-2024, 08:06 AM | #3 |
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Not sure if it'll be relevant to your car, but I clarified exactly what options I would have to pay for after 12 months.
If you didn't know BMW brought in what you might call subscription charges for continued use of some options...not just the digital services.....but a 71 plate might be before that came in. Might be worth asking the question...... |
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Would be good if other could confirm this if they have 71 plate model. Thanks |
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05-05-2024, 10:38 AM | #5 |
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Assume it’s from a main dealer so an approved used car?
Can’t comment on the alloy/tyre insurance.. it’s a lot of money! - but don’t rate any kind of dealer applied paint protection.. you will get a far better finish and cheaper service from a proper detailing company. I would however clarify the situation on the warranty on the car.. if it’s approved used it will have a 1yr AUC warranty direct from BMW. Beyond that year, the dealer may have tried to sell you their own warranty product which is unlikely to be anywhere near as good as the proper BMW extended warranty. The bmw warranty can be used at any dealership just by booking in as normal.. they do all the paperwork. |
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The 1 year warranty is BMW warranty. After this, I will continue the BMW warranty for c£600 per year. The alloy cover is c£500 + tyre cover c£500 + c£500 paint cover (smart repairs for dings etc upto 30cm) + c£400 for the paint coating inside and out (called Lifeshines from memory). It's an extra £2k however we're thinking it will give us peace of mind. If the feedback is not great on these, I'll drop them. |
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Map upgrades are £79 a year. Then there’s the “connected booster pack” at £89 a year to have services like real time traffic, Spotify, Alexa intergration etc etc. The main things like apple CarPlay/android auto are not subscription anymore. |
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Silly question, why would one need the above if they could play Spotify and use maps via CarPlay? |
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Spotify apparently sounds better via the in car app (but it’s clunky and I don’t use Spotify so no great shakes there) The inbuilt sat nav/maps has better intergration with the dashboard and HUD by showing the map on the dash and more in depth info on the HUD. Apple Maps on CarPlay and Google maps on android do still have “some” intergration in showing directions and turns.. but it’s pretty basic by comparison. My connected services run out next week so I’ll let you know how I get on and if I renew. Oh also… speed camera alerts - £25 for the year and definitely very worthwhile! |
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Any thoughts on the spec, it looks fully loaded so I didn't want to let it go? |
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I get in the car and Spotify just works instantly in the same way as the radio would. You'll have a few months of these services before they expire anyway so you'll be able to decide for yourself which you prefer. |
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As noted above, you’d get a better result with the paintwork going to a specialist detailer. Similarly, the insurance products are likely available cheaper elsewhere: try ALA for a quote on the wheel and tyre insurance / SMART repair insurance, I’ve used them before for GAP insurance and they have a good reputation. There are loads of other companies about offering the same though.
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One thing that I thought might have been a little distracting but is something now I'd hate not to have is the HUD...... Really useful to keep a check on speed.......and brilliant for satnav. But just be aware as its projected on the windscreen on a sunny day (when we have one) you'll have to turn the brightness up. |
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As above, my own experience of dealer applied protection is nowhere near as good as a specialist. At two plus years old a specialist is likely to also offer a very good deal on a minor polish before application.
Also try motoreasy for the other insurances as well as gap |
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Definitely agree on the detailing . My local BMW dealer told me it would take an extra day for the ceramic coating and £800. I just laughed . The normal detailer I use takes 3 days and will cost £1200 (touring ) for full high spec ceramic coat with 4 year guarantee . It is definitely something where cheaper, is not better . It will take 1 day to do proper wash / polish out swirls etc . Then 1 day to apply . Then 1 day under curing lights .
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Thanks for your help so far. The dealer has now offered to throw in the paint coating/sealer (Lifeshine) if I take the tyre protection. This comes after I decided to drop both.
I guess the tyre protection could be useful if I *get* a nail in my tyre The paint coating/sealer should keep me going and I could always go to a detailer in a few years. Thoughts? |
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Depends how bothered you are about the finish and durability: the fact they’re throwing it in free should tell you something about how lottle putting it on is going to cost them in materials and time and how much profit they make on the insurance products… If you’re not too worried about that though, wouldn’t have paid to get a full detail done and were going to buy the tyre insurance anyway then might as well I guess.
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Do you really need tyre insurance etc? Assuming it just covers for damage then you'd have to have 2 or 3 knackered tyres before you get anything back. How long is the policy for?
As mentioned some bloke who normally washes the cars being told to slap on a paint treatment is far removed from a proper ceramic or equivalent detail and application. Any imperfections will just be sealed in. |
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