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      07-28-2021, 04:26 PM   #133
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Appreciate the response. Any ideas where that leaves me? Feed the Match 7DSP amp directly to speaker lines? Ugh...
Sorry, I don’t know if there is a solution for this to allow an external amp for the HK system. Someone smarter than me may know though.
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      07-29-2021, 12:28 PM   #134
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Turns out I have been trying to plug into the wrong thing. On the G05 with the HK it looks like there is the RAM and then the HK amp or booster. I have been trying to plug the harness into the amp/booster. But now I have no idea where the RAM unit is. Can anyone share? Do I need to take the side panels off? Only the amp is visible from the little access door in the truck. Many thanks.
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Turns out I have been trying to plug into the wrong thing. On the G05 with the HK it looks like there is the RAM and then the HK amp or booster. I have been trying to plug the harness into the amp/booster. But now I have no idea where the RAM unit is. Can anyone share? Do I need to take the side panels off? Only the amp is visible from the little access door in the truck. Many thanks.
The UP-7BMW is for the HiFi(676) system, not for the HK(688). Connecting it to the RAM once you find it will not work.

You need to replace the UP-7BMW with the new UP 10DSP with the PP-BMW 1.9RAM-HK harness and then you can use it in your HK(688).
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      07-31-2021, 11:30 PM   #136
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Encanto Well, it worked. Sorta. Found the RAM unit hiding behind the HK amp. FYI I have the 7DSP not the 7BMW. So connector to the RAM works just fine. The thing that is missing a connection to the 7DSP is the subs under the seat. The subs are still connected to the HK amp which you can leave plugged in. Just cannot control the underseat subs via the 7DSP. I could hard wire the subs up to the 7DSP. But now that I know there is a new model out I'm torn. I hate sending things back lol. Plus the new model doesn't seem to be readily available. Decisions, decisions...
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Encanto Well, it worked. Sorta. Found the RAM unit hiding behind the HK amp. FYI I have the 7DSP not the 7BMW. So connector to the RAM works just fine. The thing that is missing a connection to the 7DSP is the subs under the seat. The subs are still connected to the HK amp which you can leave plugged in. Just cannot control the underseat subs via the 7DSP. I could hard wire the subs up to the 7DSP. But now that I know there is a new model out I'm torn. I hate sending things back lol. Plus the new model doesn't seem to be readily available. Decisions, decisions...
The 7DSP is the same as the 7BMW, and the 6 inputs/7outputs of the 7DSP are maxed out with the RAM. You need 8 inputs and 9 outputs with the HK(688).

Good luck.
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      08-01-2021, 10:13 AM   #138
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Got my G21 on order with 676 hifi, idrive7 and following with interest this topic.
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Got my G21 on order with 676 hifi, idrive7 and following with interest this topic.
I love this amp. But if you're an audiophile be prepared to replace the speakers, buy a sub and sub amp!
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Encanto Well, it worked. Sorta. Found the RAM unit hiding behind the HK amp. FYI I have the 7DSP not the 7BMW. So connector to the RAM works just fine. The thing that is missing a connection to the 7DSP is the subs under the seat. The subs are still connected to the HK amp which you can leave plugged in. Just cannot control the underseat subs via the 7DSP. I could hard wire the subs up to the 7DSP. But now that I know there is a new model out I'm torn. I hate sending things back lol. Plus the new model doesn't seem to be readily available. Decisions, decisions...
Replace it with an amp that has enough channels... I can't imagine it sounding that good otherwise, especially since the woofers are one of the speakers that most people notice a big difference in.
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I love this amp. But if you're an audiophile be prepared to replace the speakers, buy a sub and sub amp!
Thanks, I'm in "investigation mode" now. Leaning towards Focal or Eton speakers with Up7DSP or eton stealth 7.1 dsp. Not diceded yet. Both have sub-out cinch.

I still got some oldschool stuff on the shelf: Boston SPG-555 sub that I can pair with a DLS A6 or matching PG Ti800/basscube Ti/powercore 15 Ti.
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Thanks, I'm in "investigation mode" now. Leaning towards Focal or Eton speakers with Up7DSP or eton stealth 7.1 dsp. Not diceded yet. Both have sub-out cinch.

I still got some oldschool stuff on the shelf: Boston SPG-555 sub that I can pair with a DLS A6 or matching PG Ti800/basscube Ti/powercore 15 Ti.
I have Eton mids/tweets all round, and focal underseat woofers, all powered by MatchUp AMP. Very happy with the results. It's a much nicer sound then the OEM speakers. Mids and highs are more natural and precise. Focal subs are precise, defined, controlled. Not as deep as OEMs, but deep enough for rock, pop, jazz, natural insturments. Midbass is great. that drum kick too.

If you're into deep bass, there are other underseat subs that go deeper but are less precise than Focals.

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      08-14-2021, 01:17 PM   #143
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Given the scarcity of the H/K system from BMW at the moment, I am considering ordering a G20 with the standard US HiFi system and swapping the amp for the Match 7BMW.

Do you lose any factory functionality with this setup, like wireless Carplay/Android auto?

Thanks in advance.
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Given the scarcity of the H/K system from BMW at the moment, I am considering ordering a G20 with the standard US HiFi system and swapping the amp for the Match 7BMW.

Do you lose any factory functionality with this setup, like wireless Carplay/Android auto?

Thanks in advance.
You are not replacing anything OEM with the Match 7BMW, there is nothing to be lost.
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Given the scarcity of the H/K system from BMW at the moment, I am considering ordering a G20 with the standard US HiFi system and swapping the amp for the Match 7BMW.

Thanks in advance.
I would do this anyway, better flexibility moving forward and I reckon it sounds better too. The HK system is not that much of an upgrade, as shown by the relatively small price increase and then it includes extra speakers... the quality improvement isn't as much as people assume as the 'premium' pack.
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      08-15-2021, 12:56 AM   #146
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You are not replacing anything OEM with the Match 7BMW, there is nothing to be lost.
Pardon my ignorance, is the 7BMW is installed in addition to the factory RAM?

I've read of certain factory sounds like ASD and turn signal being amplified to a higher than desired volume?
Is the solution to code ASD off (though I'm not sure if the 330e even has ASD)?
How about the turn signal sound?

Thanks in advance.
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Mine was all much louder on initial install, but the tuner did something (not sure what) that reduced it to bearable levels. Still louder though. I suspect the 330e has ASD, you can probably tell if you hear a distinctly different exhaust tone when you go to sports mode.

It's probably able to be checked with your VIN on somewhere like here too https://www.mdecoder.com/
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Pardon my ignorance, is the 7BMW is installed in addition to the factory RAM?
Match amp installs in between the RAM and the OEM harness. RAM cannot be replaced.

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I've read of certain factory sounds like ASD and turn signal being amplified to a higher than desired volume?
Is the solution to code ASD off (though I'm not sure if the 330e even has ASD)?
How about the turn signal sound?

Thanks in advance.
Match amp can be tuned to reduce the gong and PDC sounds, as well as in the RAM via the iDrive menu. ASD can be coded to be silent if present.
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Match amp installs in between the RAM and the OEM harness. RAM cannot be replaced.



Match amp can be tuned to reduce the gong and PDC sounds, as well as in the RAM via the iDrive menu. ASD can be coded to be silent if present.
Do you happen to know how you tun e the gong and PDC sounds?
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How does the Match compare to the Bimmertech? I have no doubt the Match will perform exceptionally well, but I'm wondering if it might be beyond my ability to tune it to extract the performance.
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How does the Match compare to the Bimmertech? I have no doubt the Match will perform exceptionally well, but I'm wondering if it might be beyond my ability to tune it to extract the performance.
I was asking this in another thread. Never saw any feedback.

I believe Bimmertech folks will tune the amp based upon your needs...
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I have the Match amp (by Audiotec Fischer), but aren't the bimmertech amps made by Audiotec Fischer as well? I'm not sure what the actual difference between the actual amps are though. I imagine they are fairly similar, with maybe the Match being a bit newer technology as I think it's the same bimmertech amp for the last little while.

The Match amp isn't super complicated and there are people sharing their tunes as a good start point. As long as you have a laptop you can give it a good crack. I believe bimmertech only have a few tunes, original speakers or one of their speaker setups. Plus there is at least one tune for match amp on their site too. So I imagine it's a bit similar in that regard.

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Do you happen to know how you tun e the gong and PDC sounds?
Reduce the level of the gongs and PDC in the iDrive menu first then play with the 31-band EQ and channel gain levels in the DSP. That will make the gongs and PDC levels acceptable while the audio improves.

Match has tuning files for BMW that you can download from their site and load into the DSP, start with those as the baseline to adjust if you do not understand DSP tuning.
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I have the Match amp (by Audiotec Fischer), but aren't the bimmertech amps made by Audiotec Fischer as well? I'm not sure what the actual difference between the actual amps are though. I imagine they are fairly similar, with maybe the Match being a bit newer technology as I think it's the same bimmertech amp for the last little while.

The Match amp isn't super complicated and there are people sharing their tunes as a good start point. As long as you have a laptop you can give it a good crack. I believe bimmertech only have a few tunes, original speakers or one of their speaker setups. Plus there is at least one tune for match amp on their site too. So I imagine it's a bit similar in that regard.
Yes. Bimmertech amps are made by audiofischer.
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