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iX for example. I guess if you're used to the SUV's you could reason out the headlights as BMW. The short front overhang. So maybe it's not totally like some other brand, now that I'm typing this out. But generally speaking - is there anything to love here? I don't see it. And the funny thing is with my advancing age and income I'm probably the target market. Apparently the design team thought "nice looking car" and it was confirmed with some marketing studies. But I just don't get it. I'd always thought these wouldn't be mutually exclusive groups, but maybe they are. |
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02-12-2022, 05:17 PM | #135 | |
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To me thats like being a huge New York Giants fan but changing your mind about them because they changed the logo on their helmets from GIANTS to NY. |
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02-12-2022, 10:19 PM | #136 |
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The brand is sum total of many things, but the grille style was one of the things that many of us identify as part it.
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I would believe that but basically the car stayed the same with the exception of the front and that seems to be the most concerning factor to many of the diehard traditionalists. They are not complaining about the faster engine and better handling or the laser lights and ventilated seats. They’re not even complaining about the improved suspension. It’s all about the grille. As an outsider myself I have an only owned one BMW and that was an X3. I always thought every BMW looked the same for the last 25 years. At least the front anyway. I thought it was awesome to see them change something. That’s what brought me in. I almost bought the M5 but I like the grille of the M3 better. I still love the M5 also and its grille I just like the new grille more. But remember I am an outsider to BMW so therefore I’m not negatively affected by change. That and of course that when this car is tuned it’s faster than any stock non tuned ICE Porsche. Lol. Let that sink in.
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Good chatting with you as well.
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One follows a sports team for personal reasons: because it is one's hometown team; because it has a player one likes; etc. Most of us don't follow a vehicle manufacturer in the same way. So if a design no longer suits a customer, the customer should look elsewhere. Customers don't owe loyalty to a manufacturer; the manufacturer should owe loyalty to its best customers.
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Simply speaking It's not a marriage out of love, but practicality.
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And mostly the sales records are driven by the pedestrian X5 and X3, neither of which have the controversial design elements, designed BEFORE Dukec's time and by Anders Thøgersen and Calvin Luk respectively, and are not as sales driven by divisive enthusiasts. Lumping the pignose design as the only reason sales records have been broken is just scratching the surface.
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But seriously, it's not single decision factor. You don't see this face when you're driving
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02-14-2022, 05:11 PM | #151 | |
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Still though I think it would be hilarious if like all the people who are upset voted for representative to go to Germany and tell the design engineers how dumb they are. It would be hilarious to watch that design engineer pull out the sales figures and show the representative. What an embarrassing moment that would be. There was a great commercial during the Super Bowl where this guy all throughout time is telling inventors of products that eventually kicked ass that their ideas were stupid. This new M3 design is one of those moments. Here is the commercial right here. It’s actually the very first one. That dude is the representative for all the new G80 haters. they had some great commercials this year. Enjoy. |
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And FFS, stop drawing 25" wheels with 2mm of suspension travel on these concept cars. It just looks ridiculous.
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