Which one? New Porsche Cayman (base model) or Z4 Coupe?

zz25 · 05-22-2006, 12:56 PM

http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...e-base-version

Porsche announced the new non-S model of the Cayman today. With a base price of $49,400 and and pretty mediocre engine specs (at least for a Porsche), it seems like you are not getting a whole lot for your money. Still can't understand why it is more expensive than the identical-engined Boxster. Seems like a Z4 Coupe would give you a lot more value, for about 10k less, with little or no drop in performance in most real world situations.

E90Fleet · 05-22-2006, 01:01 PM

Z4

Ghunger · 05-22-2006, 01:24 PM

I'm with Fleet, Z4 coupe all the way.

Saosin17 · 05-22-2006, 01:48 PM

i know how u feel, its so tempting to have a porsche in the driveway nomatterr what the specs, after looking at the article though i would go for z4 unless u could pull off a cayman s, which i would take ahead of a z4 m coupe

E90Boy · 05-22-2006, 02:20 PM

aw crap, that cayman is stripped down to nothing. Which one will you pick?
Porsche Cayman Base $53-$56k

BMW Z4 M Roadster $53K-$57k

Porsche Cayman S $60k-$64 :rocks:
BMW Z4 M Roadster $53k-$57k

I'd probably go with the Z4M because it's cheaper, faster, and I can go topless whenever I want.

zz25 · 05-22-2006, 02:25 PM

I've actually been waiting for Porsche to announce the base Cayman to see how competitive the pricing would be. I've driven a good friend's Boxster several times and loved it, but can't deal with having a roadster for my only car. I had been agonizing over both the Z4 Coupe and the upcoming 335i coupe but practicality won out and I ordered a e90 330i 6MT ZSP last week. I road-trip on the weekends a lot, and I need the room. But between the Z4 Coupe and the Cayman, I agree with you guys, definitely the Z4.

BMW F22 · 05-22-2006, 03:55 PM

Definitely Z4 coupe. Mostly because it's cheaper to buy and maintain. I would love to own a Porsche but just couldnt justify paying so much money for it.

ward · 05-22-2006, 04:05 PM

drive them both

if you can't tell the difference buy the BMW

the porsche is on a whole different sports car level than the BMW is

it's like when somebody asks if the BMW is really better than the Lexus...

vladinecko · 05-22-2006, 04:18 PM

i agree with ward. it's not about power or features, it's about how each car drives and as harsh as it sounds, i think porsche is still a step or two above BMW in that area.

D.D. · 05-22-2006, 05:13 PM

Sometimes its all about "Panache" and brand. Porsche has associated with it an affluenet following =money=status. Like Ferrari, if you say you drive a Ferrari, the person has an immediate perception of you. If you say you drive a Toyota....BFD!!! It's all about status and what's in the driveway. Depends where you are in life and the meaning you are trying to convey. If you do not care..buy what fancies you...If you care about perception...buy the Ferrari, Porsche, Austin,,,Lambo,,,etc....that's what will get you the looks your're looking for....How vain are you???

shimshimhada · 05-22-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by D.D.

Sometimes its all about "Panache" and brand. Porsche has associated with it an affluenet following =money=status. Like Ferrari, if you say you drive a Ferrari, the person has an immediate perception of you. If you say you drive a Toyota....BFD!!! It's all about status and what's in the driveway. Depends where you are in life and the meaning you are trying to convey. If you do not care..buy what fancies you...If you care about perception...buy the Ferrari, Porsche, Austin,,,Lambo,,,etc....that's what will get you the looks your're looking for....How vain are you???

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Cayman < Z4 Coupe < Z4 M Coupe < Cayman S

nyyankee · 05-22-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shimshimhada

REGARDLESS of image...

Cayman < Z4 Coupe < Z4 M Coupe < Cayman S

x2

ward · 05-22-2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shimshimhada

REGARDLESS of image...

Cayman < Z4 Coupe < Z4 M Coupe < Cayman S

unless you're throwing in some value for $$$ factor I disagree,

but if you're throwing in the value for $$$ than I agree 100%

Saosin17 · 05-22-2006, 06:16 PM

im with shim

18LLC · 05-22-2006, 06:24 PM

try both, or lease the porsche. I dont like porsche, because of this. unless you get the carrera turbo, or else, i think z4 M is much better for the money and horsepower.

england1987 · 05-22-2006, 09:55 PM

I have been through this comparison myself, and Z4 M Coupe came out on top. $10000 cheaper than a Cayman S, faster than a Caymen S, and its aimed to beat the 911. I got two options, Metallic Paint and Navigation.:rocks:

18LLC · 05-22-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by england1987

I have been through this comparison myself, and Z4 M Coupe came out on top. $10000 cheaper than a Cayman S, faster than a Caymen S, and its aimed to beat the 911. I got two options, Metallic Paint and Navigation.:rocks:

sorry, but i don't think z4 m can beat the 911, tho. Maybe just the regular carrera? Not sure about that, but after driving c4s for over a week not, i am sure that z4 m can never beat the turbo or c4s (because i personally try to racing turbo by use the c4s). it's just different animal. M6 was just close to Carrera S, not even c4s, how can z4 m beat turbo or GT2 or GT3?

ward · 05-23-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by england1987

I have been through this comparison myself, and Z4 M Coupe came out on top. $10000 cheaper than a Cayman S, faster than a Caymen S, and its aimed to beat the 911. I got two options, Metallic Paint and Navigation.:rocks:

go drive them both and you'll quickly realize where the extra 10 grand is......

the Boxster S is cheaper than the Cayman S and even with less power than the Cayman it's still imo a better car

ska///235i · 05-23-2006, 04:06 PM

herbz · 11-28-2006, 11:18 AM

the Cayman is clearly better, in fact the Cayman has more grip than a Ferrari Enzo. I love the Z4M coupe. but sorry BMW, you're no porsche

bmwexecutive · 12-03-2006, 10:15 PM

I'd say bump up your budget by $4,000 and get the Z4 M Roadster.

I'm going to have a similar debate come the release of the new M3. It's going to be between the new M3 and the Porsche Cayman S. Most likely I'm going to take the new M3 because with the Porsche you pay for everything from power windows to the Porsche crest embeddded in the seats, and even, get this, $300 or so for the logo on the wheels to be in color. Absurd!

ALPINE6SPD · 12-12-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shimshimhada

REGARDLESS of image...

Cayman < Z4 Coupe < Z4 M Coupe < Cayman S

I agree 100%

05-22-2006, 12:56 PM	#1
zz25 Private 11 Rep 58 Posts Drives: '04 Landcruiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Far from the USA iTrader: (0)	Which one? New Porsche Cayman (base model) or Z4 Coupe? http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...e-base-version Porsche announced the new non-S model of the Cayman today. With a base price of $49,400 and and pretty mediocre engine specs (at least for a Porsche), it seems like you are not getting a whole lot for your money. Still can't understand why it is more expensive than the identical-engined Boxster. Seems like a Z4 Coupe would give you a lot more value, for about 10k less, with little or no drop in performance in most real world situations.
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05-22-2006, 01:01 PM	#2
E90Fleet Lieutenant General 1311 Rep 10,185 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	Z4 __________________ BMW if you are reading, I need a job, Please.
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05-22-2006, 01:24 PM	#3
Ghunger Major 52 Rep 1,024 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	I'm with Fleet, Z4 coupe all the way. __________________ 330i Monaco Blue, Terra /w aluminum trim, SP, PP, CA, PDC, Nav, Folding Seats, Sat Prep European Delivery Blog Picture Gallery
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Saosin17 Private First Class 33 Rep 138 Posts Drives: e90 330i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: baltimore iTrader: (0)	i know how u feel, its so tempting to have a porsche in the driveway nomatterr what the specs, after looking at the article though i would go for z4 unless u could pull off a cayman s, which i would take ahead of a z4 m coupe
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05-22-2006, 02:20 PM	#5
E90Boy Captain 35 Rep 674 Posts Drives: 14 F33 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boston iTrader: (4)	aw crap, that cayman is stripped down to nothing. Which one will you pick? Porsche Cayman Base $53-$56k BMW Z4 M Roadster $53K-$57k Porsche Cayman S $60k-$64 :rocks: BMW Z4 M Roadster $53k-$57k I'd probably go with the Z4M because it's cheaper, faster, and I can go topless whenever I want.
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05-22-2006, 02:25 PM	#6
zz25 Private 11 Rep 58 Posts Drives: '04 Landcruiser Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Far from the USA iTrader: (0)	I've actually been waiting for Porsche to announce the base Cayman to see how competitive the pricing would be. I've driven a good friend's Boxster several times and loved it, but can't deal with having a roadster for my only car. I had been agonizing over both the Z4 Coupe and the upcoming 335i coupe but practicality won out and I ordered a e90 330i 6MT ZSP last week. I road-trip on the weekends a lot, and I need the room. But between the Z4 Coupe and the Cayman, I agree with you guys, definitely the Z4.
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05-22-2006, 03:55 PM	#7
BMW F22 Major General 3563 Rep 9,787 Posts Drives: ///M235i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (8)	Definitely Z4 coupe. Mostly because it's cheaper to buy and maintain. I would love to own a Porsche but just couldnt justify paying so much money for it.
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ward Major General 155 Rep 6,158 Posts Drives: F Join Date: May 2005 Location: T iTrader: (0)	drive them both if you can't tell the difference buy the BMW the porsche is on a whole different sports car level than the BMW is it's like when somebody asks if the BMW is really better than the Lexus...
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D.D. Private First Class 5 Rep 126 Posts Drives: 330 xi Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Sometimes its all about "Panache" and brand. Porsche has associated with it an affluenet following =money=status. Like Ferrari, if you say you drive a Ferrari, the person has an immediate perception of you. If you say you drive a Toyota....BFD!!! It's all about status and what's in the driveway. Depends where you are in life and the meaning you are trying to convey. If you do not care..buy what fancies you...If you care about perception...buy the Ferrari, Porsche, Austin,,,Lambo,,,etc....that's what will get you the looks your're looking for....How vain are you???
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Saosin17 Private First Class 33 Rep 138 Posts Drives: e90 330i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: baltimore iTrader: (0)	im with shim
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05-22-2006, 06:24 PM	#15
18LLC Major General 148 Rep 5,104 Posts Drives: e89 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California iTrader: (0)	try both, or lease the porsche. I dont like porsche, because of this. unless you get the carrera turbo, or else, i think z4 M is much better for the money and horsepower.
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05-22-2006, 09:55 PM	#16
england1987 Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 280 Posts Drives: Z4 M coupe Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC, USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 Z4 M Coupe [7.50]	I have been through this comparison myself, and Z4 M Coupe came out on top. $10000 cheaper than a Cayman S, faster than a Caymen S, and its aimed to beat the 911. I got two options, Metallic Paint and Navigation.:rocks:
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11-28-2006, 11:18 AM	#20
herbz hi 94 Rep 837 Posts Drives: '86 325e Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: outside boston MA iTrader: (0)	the Cayman is clearly better, in fact the Cayman has more grip than a Ferrari Enzo. I love the Z4M coupe. but sorry BMW, you're no porsche
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bmwexecutive Banned 240 Rep 2,453 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast iTrader: (4)	I'd say bump up your budget by $4,000 and get the Z4 M Roadster. I'm going to have a similar debate come the release of the new M3. It's going to be between the new M3 and the Porsche Cayman S. Most likely I'm going to take the new M3 because with the Porsche you pay for everything from power windows to the Porsche crest embeddded in the seats, and even, get this, $300 or so for the logo on the wheels to be in color. Absurd!
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