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Years ago (2013), I hopped into my exes '11 135i M-Sport (..that we acquired while still together) after having moved from my third E92 ///M3 to a '14 F30 335i M-Sport. The first thing I noticed was how much I disliked the steering feel/weight relative to the 335i I was driving at the time. Those were the early days of the EPS complaints from the E9X and F3X cars, but a back-to-back comparison favored the newer cars in my eyes.
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Why? If you don’t like jerky city driving, overly stiff damping and bad engine noise you’re not an enthusiast? This is funny coming from people who lose their mind over a grill.
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As an current M340i owner, I don't share the opinion that it's a better car than the M3. Better is too ambiguous a term, M340i has some good traits as does the current M3. However, M3 wins in performance. I for one thinks my RWD M340i should be more hardcore. They gave us the M2's Diff but the car still doesn't drive as hard edge as I would have liked.
M3 is on another level in terms of driving dynamics. M340i is currently one of the best NON M sedans ever made aside from the good ol E46 ZHP and probably the last of a dying era since next gen will most likely be 4 cylinder/electric. Anyhow, it's still no real substitute for an actual M car, more of a compromise.
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And I don’t think it’s too stiff for daily(unlike X3M which was AWFUL), but M340i is better balanced if you drive in town too. If I was in Texas or something, I wouldn’t mind. In Boston, M340i damping is better.
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Joe Achilles is an enthusiast in my view, and he says m340i is the best BMW, he likes it better than his M5 competition. I guess he doesn’t understand driving as well as you do.
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Why doesn't anybody have the balls to say this thing is huge? It's 8 inches longer than an E90 sedan and 4000lbs!!! I test drove it and couldn't stand it before leaving the parking lot. Add to that the car is soft and it's a big NO. ZF tranny stinks unless it's in auto mode but shifting it is pointless and downshifts are slow and slushy. This car felt like a big old Buick from the past except a really fast one. BMW seems to have the following formula these days: make them big and heavy then engineer the shit out of them to defy physics and do things that vehicles of that proportion and mass shouldn't be able to do. Some people get stuck marvelling at the engineering while I think that formula is flawed and doesn't make for a fun car. I also drove the X3M and had a very similar opinion.
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Surprisingly, according to each manufacturers' websites, the Audi S4 and Merc C43 are both lighter than the M340i x-drive (and even the RWD model too!) by 100+lbs, the G70 3.3T HTRAC I beleive is around the same weight (couldn't find clear specs on that) and the equivalent Model 3 LR/Performance is only 60lbs heavier despite large batteries, although the standard Model 3 is lighter than the RWD 330.
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Those sentences summarize how things are still bad in BMW headquarter :
Too bad the steering doesn’t do the same. At least the M340i ditched the F30’s old steering rack, an electric unit that was slammed as lifeless and dreary. While the new rack feels improved, it’s still not up to BMW’s old standard. But there’s still little chatter or feedback through the wheel concerning the road’s surface. Old BMW sedans involve you in a conversation between car and road. Here there’s barely a whisper. Most of the information about the road surface bubbles up from the car’s rear end to your backside, not through the wheel. We, people here - don't buy BMW because it is a luxury vehicle. We buy because it puts a smile on our face every time we drive. I keep buying BMW but it is no longer "Ultimate Driving Machine" in automotive department, luckily it has the same spirit in BMW Motorrad/Motorcycles! |
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I would say all cars are heavy these days even M cars. We can't live in the past and as great at my E46's were I have no desire to choose that over the M340i today. M340i is great for what it is and competes well in its category. None of the cars it competes against is great in everything.
Drive the X3 M40i and you'll appreciate the M340i. M340i is not that heavy considering it's a 4 door sedan with a huge trunk. The M2C which is a small car still weigh a hefty 3600 pounds. The RWD M340i weighs 3849 lbs, you can't expect it to have M2C weight. All these cars are a compromise even the actual M cars so one must wager what's best satisfies his or her needs. At least, those of us who can only afford one car to handle multiple functions. If money is no object, get a new C8 and a non M sedan and call it day.
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Power delivery was smoother (and very impressive) but it felt like it was supposed to be that way. At no point did I want to take it to the mountains and push it; I was happy moseying around town running errands. Two very different cars. |
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