[rf3000]

How much range do you get on highway only? At legal speeds (120km/h approx.) can you get more than 40km?

[DomMuc]

Originally Posted by rf3000

How much range do you get on highway only? At legal speeds (120km/h approx.) can you get more than 40km?

you get less than 20.... optimum milage you´ll get with 30km/h on a completly even street without traffic, red lights etc.

[rf3000]

Originally Posted by DomMuc

you get less than 20.... optimum milage you´ll get with 30km/h on a completly even street without traffic, red lights etc.

Less than 20km range on highway? That seems too little...

[sd_dracula]

You can set the start time of charging and it goes to 100% and no it won't waste battery if you preheat as the battery will start charging again (at least it does for me but I have it to auto charge as soon as I plug it in)
In fact it is recommended to preheat as that preheats the battery also.

[mathys]

Highway is the worst for battery-only

[Chuckyarla]

What wall charger would you recommend?

[Eagle Creek]

Originally Posted by sd_dracula

You can set the start time of charging and it goes to 100% and no it won't waste battery if you preheat as the battery will start charging again (at least it does for me but I have it to auto charge as soon as I plug it in)
In fact it is recommended to preheat as that preheats the battery also.

It doesn't preheat the battery, what makes you think that? Prove please.

[-Nick]

Originally Posted by safcraft

There is nothing wrong with your car, this sounds about what i and others are getting. If you drive around the city like i do, with traffic lights and jams, with small trips of 10-15 each time you will get the 24miles on eletric.

If you want more, turn the climate control OFF, turn the lights OFF, the driving aids OFF and drive like a granny at 50mph in a straight freeway with no uphills and you will get the 37 miles autonomy like others have posted here in one single trip.

But what is point on buying a 290bhp car with M Sport pack to drive like that ? You should have bought a i3 or a Nissan Leaf if you wanted to drive granny style and pure eletric all day long.

Just enjoy your car, for what it is. A fast beautiful car with a roaring engine (love the sound of the revs) that can be tamed down to cruising eletric silence whenever you wish. I know I DO.

Just to add to this - Driving in Electric mode will return slightly less mileage as there's slightly more power available than hybrid mode.

The most I've got is 33 miles on a long motorway journey pottering at 65mph in Hybrid Eco Pro.

[Eagle Creek]

Originally Posted by safcraft

I must ask, when you say you use pre-heating the car 30min before the drive start, we are talking about the temperature inside the car right ? What does that have to do with the temperature on the battery ?
And even so, doesnt that contradict the purpose of energy savings ? When you pre-heat the car for 30min, you are using electricity . How much ? Did you measure?

Battery doesn't preheat. However if you preheat the car while it's plugged in the car doesn't require battery power to get the compartment up to temperature. Thefore preheating does help you in giving you additional range.

Also my AC is always off. No fogging unless it's start to rain really hard. Then AC is on for two minutes and off again. No problems at all.

[tn1krr]

Originally Posted by Eagle Creek

Battery doesn't preheat. However if you preheat the car while it's plugged in the car doesn't require battery power to get the compartment up to temperature. Thefore preheating does help you in giving you additional range.

Local (Finland, plenty of cold temp) F30 330e drivers claim/say that if you charge (say from empty or 20% to 100%) car so that it just gets ready before you leave the charging process heats the battery and you'll get better range. It makes sense, I'm yet to see a battery of any size that does not heat at all when charged. I'm also planning to test this once I get my G20 330e, should be here within a few weeks. I also have a thermal camera so I should be able to see even slight real heating from battery location.

Best way to charge in freezing temps is supposedly as follows
- charge+pre-conditioning so that car is ready 15 minutes before you leave; this should give car time to charge the battery back to full if the pre-conditioning needs more than 3,7 kW (in really freezing conditions this can happen), in which case it will borrow a bit from battery and this needs be recharged back to battery after preconditioning is ready

[Taurus007]

Originally Posted by BMW 330E M-Performance

New tune time for the car this will be fun
https://sv.bsr.se/trimsatser/t/4409/...2020-b48-b20-b

Please give us an update on the tune when you get it, looks very interesting.

[Mazman]

First drive to and from work

[Chuckyarla]

Originally Posted by Mazman

First drive to and from work

What exactly do those figures mean? How many kms did you travel?

[Mazman]

Originally Posted by Chuckyarla

What exactly do those figures mean? How many kms did you travel?

48.7 km on battery
46.9km/h average speed
0.1l/10km consumption in total during that drive

Totalt distance driven 55km

Outside temp during the drive was around 3 celcius

[Chuckyarla]

Originally Posted by Mazman

48.7 km on battery
46.9km/h average speed
0.1l/10km consumption in total during that drive

Totalt distance driven 55km

Outside temp during the drive was around 3 celcius

How many charges?

[Mazman]

During that drive only one

Originally Posted by Chuckyarla

How many charges?

[Chuckyarla]

Originally Posted by Mazman

During that drive only one

Sounds brilliant! So you charged at home before you left for work, drove 27.5kms to work and back home again all on that one charge. I will be getting my 330e in January. I drive 40kms each day (4 trips of 10) so I'm hoping that one charge at home overnight will last the day.

What kind of charger do you use? How are you finding the car otherwise?

[ctstavri]

Originally Posted by ctstavri

Thanks for the reply. I would definitely agree on having 50 km and not 60km in reality. It is difficult for me to accept half of range for a car of 75000€.i drive only in town and the aircon is set close to outside temperature. I also believe that recharging from braking etc should not be part of the range of the car. I have already set the charge at 16A although the indication says 10A when charging. I ll give a feedback when I return from dealers inspection.

Just came back from the local BMW dealer. Checked everything , batteries charge fine and the verdict was that the total range is 36 km and we cannot do anything about it. I will get some legal actions on this to see what the result will be. Very disappointing...

[SteveinArizona]

Not likely to succeed. Range depends upon a number of factors. Probably the most significant one is driving style. I think the standard is played against all the slow phevs in the market and I suspect that most BMW drivers don't approximate hypermiling. The second most important factor is weather. We are in December when the weather is cold and cold saps battery life.

[ctstavri]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

Not likely to succeed. Range depends upon a number of factors. Probably the most significant one is driving style. I think the standard is played against all the slow phevs in the market and I suspect that most BMW drivers don't approximate hypermiling. The second most important factor is weather. We are in December when the weather is cold and cold saps battery life.

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

Not likely to succeed. Range depends upon a number of factors. Probably the most significant one is driving style. I think the standard is played against all the slow phevs in the market and I suspect that most BMW drivers don't approximate hypermiling. The second most important factor is weather. We are in December when the weather is cold and cold saps battery life.

The problem is that you cannot claim 60km and in reality have 30km. I drove like a granny air con off all electronics out, out temperature 22C. My daily commute is 50 km and the reason I bought the car is to drive it purely in electric mode. The sales people never told me that you have to expect 50% off the expected range. Not to mention that it is rediculous to spend 75000euros to drive like a turtle.

[Chuckyarla]

Mazman, a couple of posts back, drove almost 50kms on one charge of battery. So it is possible to get more than 30kms.

[Chuckyarla]

Originally Posted by Mazman

48.7 km on battery
46.9km/h average speed
0.1l/10km consumption in total during that drive

Totalt distance driven 55km

Outside temp during the drive was around 3 celcius

What mode did you drive in?