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      10-22-2019, 08:10 AM   #23
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Hey crazy question, will semiautonomous driving follow the navigation to your destination?
Definitely not.
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Hey crazy question, will semiautonomous driving follow the navigation to your destination?
Definitely not.
too bad
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      10-22-2019, 01:20 PM   #25
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Nor will it automatically stop at red lights.
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      10-22-2019, 03:34 PM   #26
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I could use a clarification. I've used Assisted Driving (over 40 mph) and to a much lesser extent, also Assisted Driving Plus (traffic jam assistant, under 40 mph).

What is the difference between the two? Both will assist with steering as well as speed control.
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There's a lot that's missing this is more of a gimmick than anything. Only useful feature is maybe auto emergency braking.
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      10-23-2019, 03:39 AM   #28
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I could use a clarification. I've used Assisted Driving (over 40 mph) and to a much lesser extent, also Assisted Driving Plus (traffic jam assistant, under 40 mph).

What is the difference between the two? Both will assist with steering as well as speed control.
In the traffic jam, as long as you looking up straight, you don't have to hold the steering wheel. On the motorways you have to squeeze it every so often.

Not sure about other differences.

I think it's a good system overall. Got some limitations but many useful features as well.

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      10-23-2019, 09:42 PM   #29
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I do really enjoy the feature, but has anyone noticed that it does terribly at recognizing when cars have come to a full stop? Often times mine will speed up rapidly after I pass someone or head straight toward a really slow car or stopped car. I almost always have to intervene.

In fact just for giggle, I've let it come up on a car, sound the warning of collision avoidance and definitely had to slam on the breaks otherwise it would have just hit the car. I noticed some cars, that have inferior assisted driving, do a lot better with detection of cars in front of them.
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      10-24-2019, 07:34 AM   #30
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I do really enjoy the feature, but has anyone noticed that it does terribly at recognizing when cars have come to a full stop? Often times mine will speed up rapidly after I pass someone or head straight toward a really slow car or stopped car. I almost always have to intervene.

In fact just for giggle, I've let it come up on a car, sound the warning of collision avoidance and definitely had to slam on the breaks otherwise it would have just hit the car. I noticed some cars, that have inferior assisted driving, do a lot better with detection of cars in front of them.
Yes!! It always brakes in time but far to harsh. It should be able to detect fully stopped traffic much sooner if you ask me.

Only real downside I could find though. Normal braking and distance keeping are fine. But it seems to race into traffic standing still only to slam on the brakes .
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Yes!! It always brakes in time but far to harsh. It should be able to detect fully stopped traffic much sooner if you ask me.

Only real downside I could find though. Normal braking and distance keeping are fine. But it seems to race into traffic standing still only to slam on the brakes .
I think it is programmed to copy the owner's driving style!
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      10-28-2019, 11:06 PM   #32
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I absolutely love Driving Assistance Pro and having level 3 autonomous driving under 40 MPH. It's amazing how much better Driving Assistance Pro in the G20 3 is compared to Driving Assistance Plus in the G01 X3.
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      10-28-2019, 11:25 PM   #33
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Thoughts on this package from owners? (Or those who opted out?) it is pretty uncommon, but a car specced to my liking has it included.

I almost would rather go without. I have heard bad things about these features, like them being overzealous and always tugging you around when it thinks you’re leaving your lane. Can you turn these features off?
I find it useful and turn off/down other features. I like having it especially on long drives, I want the warning in case I get distracted.
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      11-16-2019, 07:46 PM   #34
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My car almost crashed into a wall on a curvy road at around 30mph to 40mph. I am not using it in curvy roads anymore.

Anyone else had any issues like this?
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My car almost crashed into a wall on a curvy road at around 30mph to 40mph. I am not using it in curvy roads anymore.

Anyone else had any issues like this?
How did it almost crash into a wall if you had your hands on the steering wheel?
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      11-16-2019, 08:21 PM   #36
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I didnt touch the steering wheel but I was keeping my hands above it.
I was expecting the car to turn right in that bend but it didnt. I didnt want to risk so turned the steering wheel myself. But it all happened in a fraction of a second.

It was a night drive and the bend did not have the white line on the edge so the car did not understand the curve. I am not too sure what made the car to drive straight in the bend.
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I didnt touch the steering wheel but I was keeping my hands above it.
I was expecting the car to turn right in that bend but it didnt. I didnt want to risk so turned the steering wheel myself. But it all happened in a fraction of a second.

It was a night drive and the bend did not have the white line on the edge so the car did not understand the curve. I am not too sure what made the car to drive straight in the bend.
If the lane doesn’t have markings, it probably won’t recognize it as a lane. Both markings help keep the car centered.
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I can confirm it works the more reliably with both white line markings. Not so well with even one missing.
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I can confirm it works the more reliably with both white line markings. Not so well with even one missing.
Exactly. That’s how it works on my Audis as well.
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Yes!! It always brakes in time but far to harsh. It should be able to detect fully stopped traffic much sooner if you ask me.

Only real downside I could find though. Normal braking and distance keeping are fine. But it seems to race into traffic standing still only to slam on the brakes .
I think this is on purpose. Many times the second car will pause and then drive away. Starting braking too early will tick off many drivers as being overly aggressive in terms of timing.

The problem is that drivers vary greatly and therefore their understanding of what is appropriate also varies greatly. My suggestion is to do what the terms say...use it as an aid only. Drive your car the same way you always did before they added all these "safety features". Keep them as a semi fail safe.
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Yes!! It always brakes in time but far to harsh. It should be able to detect fully stopped traffic much sooner if you ask me.

Only real downside I could find though. Normal braking and distance keeping are fine. But it seems to race into traffic standing still only to slam on the brakes .
This isn't exclusive to BMW. My previous Infiniti had this same issue, and I believe most ACC systems (including Teslas) don't react to stationary objects.

From my understanding, the reason for this is that manufacturers of these ACC systems assume that humans have the ability to see and anticipate objects in front that would require their intervention (hence why these are driver aids, not driver replacements), however if the system was to slam on the brakes unnecessarily, then it would be the fault of the ACC system if the car gets rear ended by someone behind them.

I think it's something car manufacturers do a piss poor job of informing the public of outside of some fine print stating that the driver should always be aware. There needs to be better education as to WHY the driver needs to remain attentive. Especially when you have marketing departments calling their systems "autopilot".
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I absolutely love Driving Assistance Pro and having level 3 autonomous driving under 40 MPH. It's amazing how much better Driving Assistance Pro in the G20 3 is compared to Driving Assistance Plus in the G01 X3.
What're the differences? I'm trying to decide between the G20 and (2020) G01 - maybe the 2020 version is upgraded since it's got ID7.

Is emergency braking in the Pro package? The lesser package only has the warning?
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What're the differences? I'm trying to decide between the G20 and (2020) G01 - maybe the 2020 version is upgraded since it's got ID7.

Is emergency braking in the Pro package? The lesser package only has the warning?
Not 100% sure but I think all the major safety features (lane departure avoidance, city emergency breaking, ...) are standard; the Pro package adds active level 2/3 autonomous driving features like extended adaptive cruise control, traffic jam assist and automatic lane guidance.

The regular driving assistance is mostly (radar-based) blind spot warning and some minor things like slightly extended speed-limit info, and warnings against rear- and side collisions.

EDIT: I now realize you were more asking about the differences to the G01 DAPlus - not sure about those in details.
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What're the differences? I'm trying to decide between the G20 and (2020) G01 - maybe the 2020 version is upgraded since it's got ID7.

Is emergency braking in the Pro package? The lesser package only has the warning?
Yes the Driver assistant professional has emergency braking. Sometimes it stops my car pulling out of a tight garage space. It definitely works.
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