[SalmanF]

Anybody on here using the Bootmod3 OTS E50 map?

What are your thoughts?

Any issues?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Sub'd

[bm5bullit]

Well, it's the first I hear about it. Loaded up my BM3 maps a couple of months ago and it was not available then. Definitely something I want to check out.

[SalmanF]

Originally Posted by bm5bullit

Well, it's the first I hear about it. Loaded up my BM3 maps a couple of months ago and it was not available then. Definitely something I want to check out.

Let me know how it runs if you do flash it.

[bimmerstar]

i can't get e30 to run right. i doubt i could run e50 without like full e85 due to "bad gas"

[dustwhyn]

Been running it since the day it came out. It is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the bm3 E30 and MHD E40 OTS maps. More or less dead even with my buddy's M240i on his custom DS2/E55 tune. Some runs he takes it, others I take it- all depends on reaction time and who's at a better spot in their powerband.

For comparison, on both the bm3 E30 and MHD E40 OTS maps, he walked me.

However, I feel like I should add that I do get a weird limp mode issue on bm3 ethanol maps that doesn't occur on MHD ethanol maps. Occasionally at WOT, the car will just fall on its face and then refuse to make anything over 7.5-ish PSI. No DME codes (Shadow or live), and no TCU codes. Issue goes away after pulling over and shutting the car off, then starting it back up. Happens on both the E30 and E50 maps, but not on the pump gas maps. After working with Halim from PTF, it's mostly been fixed as of version 2.5, but it still pops its head up from time to time and there's no obvious explanation as to why. There's also a similar issue where if you're cruising down the highway in 6th gear and you lean into the car a little bit to pass someone (But not enough to cause the car to downshift), it will similarly fall on its face out of nowhere and it will then actually start to lose boost pressure even if you lean into it even more, and afterwards there's an evident lack of both power and response. This issue can be remedied by downshifting or upshifting to any other gear and then coming back. Halim says that the first issue that I mentioned was a torque limit flag issue, and that the second issue is the trans protecting itself (He said that he verified through the guys at xHP), but I'm unsure as to why it would happen on bm3 and not MHD.

Just my experience. *shrug*

[SalmanF]

Originally Posted by dustinwithay

Been running it since the day it came out. It is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the bm3 E30 and MHD E40 OTS maps. More or less dead even with my buddy's M240i on his custom DS2/E55 tune. Some runs he takes it, others I take it- all depends on reaction time and who's at a better spot in their powerband.

For comparison, on both the bm3 E30 and MHD E40 OTS maps, he walked me.

However, I feel like I should add that I do get a weird limp mode issue on bm3 ethanol maps that doesn't occur on MHD ethanol maps. Occasionally at WOT, the car will just fall on its face and then refuse to make anything over 7.5-ish PSI. No DME codes (Shadow or live), and no TCU codes. Issue goes away after pulling over and shutting the car off, then starting it back up. Happens on both the E30 and E50 maps, but not on the pump gas maps. After working with Halim from PTF, it's mostly been fixed as of version 2.5, but it still pops its head up from time to time and there's no obvious explanation as to why. There's also a similar issue where if you're cruising down the highway in 6th gear and you lean into the car a little bit to pass someone (But not enough to cause the car to downshift), it will similarly fall on its face out of nowhere and it will then actually start to lose boost pressure even if you lean into it even more, and afterwards there's an evident lack of both power and response. This issue can be remedied by downshifting or upshifting to any other gear and then coming back. Halim says that the first issue that I mentioned was a torque limit flag issue, and that the second issue is the [...]

Thank you for the detailed response,
I’m planning on flashing the e50 ots map once i get my dp installed, Do you think if i put torque reductions in 5th and 6th gear i could go around these issues if they are trans related?

[Insane435]

Originally Posted by dustinwithay

Been running it since the day it came out. It is SIGNIFICANTLY faster than the bm3 E30 and MHD E40 OTS maps. More or less dead even with my buddy's M240i on his custom DS2/E55 tune. Some runs he takes it, others I take it- all depends on reaction time and who's at a better spot in their powerband.

For comparison, on both the bm3 E30 and MHD E40 OTS maps, he walked me.

However, I feel like I should add that I do get a weird limp mode issue on bm3 ethanol maps that doesn't occur on MHD ethanol maps. Occasionally at WOT, the car will just fall on its face and then refuse to make anything over 7.5-ish PSI. No DME codes (Shadow or live), and no TCU codes. Issue goes away after pulling over and shutting the car off, then starting it back up. Happens on both the E30 and E50 maps, but not on the pump gas maps. After working with Halim from PTF, it's mostly been fixed as of version 2.5, but it still pops its head up from time to time and there's no obvious explanation as to why. There's also a similar issue where if you're cruising down the highway in 6th gear and you lean into the car a little bit to pass someone (But not enough to cause the car to downshift), it will similarly fall on its face out of nowhere and it will then actually start to lose boost pressure even if you lean into it even more, and afterwards there's an evident lack of both power and response. This issue can be remedied by downshifting or upshifting to any other gear and then coming back. Halim says that the first issue that I mentioned was a torque limit flag issue, and that the second issue is the trans protecting itself (He said that he verified through the guys at xHP), but I'm unsure as to why it would happen on bm3 and not MHD.

Just my experience. *shrug*

Hey, I have a few questions:

Do you have XHP?

Do you have any times on the e50 map or any other maps from BM3?

How much E are you running? Are you in Cali? You are mixing 91 ACN with E85 and it works on the E50 map? I struggle to get clean timing on 93 and e85 on the E30 map.

[dustwhyn]

Originally Posted by Insane435

Hey, I have a few questions:

Do you have XHP?

Do you have any times on the e50 map or any other maps from BM3?

How much E are you running? Are you in Cali? You are mixing 91 ACN with E85 and it works on the E50 map? I struggle to get clean timing on 93 and e85 on the E30 map.

Yep! I’m running xHP Stage 3 v1.1 and I mix ACN91 with E85 to get to E50.

I don’t have any times to share yet cuz my Dragy (DRG70 is terrible, don’t buy one) is acting up and I’m going back and forth with support trying to get them to RMA it and send me the older DRG69 model.

[dustwhyn]

Originally Posted by SalmanF

Thank you for the detailed response,
I’m planning on flashing the e50 ots map once i get my dp installed, Do you think if i put torque reductions in 5th and 6th gear i could go around these issues if they are trans related?

Hard to say because I’m not quite sure what triggers them. The original issue I was facing happened seemingly randomly in any gear when there was a hard torque spike, and the other issue that I’ve been facing only happens in 6th gear. Halim seems to have fixed it for the most part and pushed the update to the public OTS map (v2.5), but he hasn’t updated any of them except for the E50 map yet. I’m keeping him in the loop on any issues that I run into, and I’d advise more people to just give it a shot and report any issues to him through their support portal and make sure you provide logs. The more of us out there running his maps and sending in logs, the better picture we can paint of how things are running and any issues that there may be.

[SalmanF]

Originally Posted by dustinwithay

Hard to say because I’m not quite sure what triggers them. The original issue I was facing happened seemingly randomly in any gear when there was a hard torque spike, and the other issue that I’ve been facing only happens in 6th gear. Halim seems to have fixed it for the most part and pushed the update to the public OTS map (v2.5), but he hasn’t updated any of them except for the E50 map yet. I’m keeping him in the loop on any issues that I run into, and I’d advise more people to just give it a shot and report any issues to him through their support portal and make sure you provide logs. The more of us out there running his maps and sending in logs, the better picture we can paint of how things are running and any issues that there may be.

Thank you, If you do get any new issues please post in the thread.

[hayko_M340]

E50 tends to fall on its face on stock TU pump as it crashes. Same with MHD E50
Beta Map back in the day, that's why they dialed it down to E40 and honestly feels like it makes more power and way more linear/consistent.

[dustwhyn]

Originally Posted by hayko_M340

E50 tends to fall on its face on stock TU pump as it crashes. Same with MHD E50
Beta Map back in the day, that's why they dialed it down to E40 and honestly feels like it makes more power and way more linear/consistent.

I absolutely disagree. My logs look great and my car makes more power all across the board than it ever did on E30 or E40.

[B58-M340iX]

I'm about to unlock my '21 with Femto and get the recently announced CustomROM features. I'm looking forward to testing the e50 tune. I'll likely start with a 93 tune and play around. I still need to get the ethanol plug and play they've released.

[Insane435]

Originally Posted by dustinwithay

I absolutely disagree. My logs look great and my car makes more power all across the board than it ever did on E30 or E40.

Have you run the E40 MDH map for comparison? I wish you had times to compare.

[dustwhyn]

Originally Posted by Insane435

Have you run the E40 MDH map for comparison? I wish you had times to compare.

I’ll grab some times when I can finally get the guys at Dragy to send me a new unit, but they’re being a pain in my ass. I have ran the Stage 2 91 and E40 maps from MHD on my car, as well as the Stage 2 91, E30, E50, and MultiMap maps from bm3. The bm3 E50 map is by far the fastest available OTS map for gen 2 B58 cars at this time. On v2.5 of the E50 map, I haven’t run into any of the issues that I mentioned previously and I’m pretty hard on my car. I spoke with Halim and the rest of the maps will be getting updated within the next couple weeks.

[A90supra]

Originally Posted by dustwhyn

I’ll grab some times when I can finally get the guys at Dragy to send me a new unit, but they’re being a pain in my ass. I have ran the Stage 2 91 and E40 maps from MHD on my car, as well as the Stage 2 91, E30, E50, and MultiMap maps from bm3. The bm3 E50 map is by far the fastest available OTS map for gen 2 B58 cars at this time. On v2.5 of the E50 map, I haven’t run into any of the issues that I mentioned previously and I’m pretty hard on my car. I spoke with Halim and the rest of the maps will be getting updated within the next couple weeks.

Bringing this back up. I dont have a m340i but i got the supra. Running ots e50 map is awesome fastest ots map bm3 have for sure. I ran 60-130 at 7.58 with the 2port supra but i have the exact same annoying issue like what you explain only on 6th gear when you full throttle about 3000 to 5000rpm it will fall on it face log show throttle closure when that happen and cut boost to 7 to 8 psi untill you down shift back to 5th then boost come right back.. it not fun driving the car when it happen. Contact bm3 got new test map but still cant fix it so probably i have to go custom tune. Thinking new 2.7 update will fix it but no still have that same issue.

Have dragy slip here.

[Prophet26]

Originally Posted by A90supra

Bringing this back up. I dont have a m340i but i got the supra. Running ots e50 map is awesome fastest ots map bm3 have for sure. I ran 60-130 at 7.58 with the 2port supra but i have the exact same annoying issue like what you explain only on 6th gear when you full throttle about 3000 to 5000rpm it will fall on it face log show throttle closure when that happen and cut boost to 7 to 8 psi untill you down shift back to 5th then boost come right back.. it not fun driving the car when it happen. Contact bm3 got new test map but still cant fix it so probably i have to go custom tune. Thinking new 2.7 update will fix it but no still have that same issue.

Have dragy slip here.

I am on Stage 2 multimap running E50-E60 & I have this exact same thing. Any chance this is a feature to save the fragile 6th gear and not an “issue” at all? Or have you spoke to BM3 about it?

[A90supra]

Originally Posted by Prophet26

I am on Stage 2 multimap running E50-E60 & I have this exact same thing. Any chance this is a feature to save the fragile 6th gear and not an “issue” at all? Or have you spoke to BM3 about it?

THIS WHAT

Halim Cazimi commented:

This to me is some sort of transmission limitation causing this, protection of some sort.

There is no limits in the ECU that would limit you above 6th gear.


DONT know no more this cant be a limit ecutek tuned car have non of this issue at all with torque over 650wtq plus. This issue is straight up wack.. hated when you short shift from 5th to 6th gear it does this all the time not drivable...