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      12-08-2017, 05:43 PM   #67
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You might need to...you know...learn how to drive then.
Because I havenít enjoyed ZF autos?

The ones Iíve driven have felt sluggish (from the perspective of the transmission response) in comparison with my last two cars, a 981 with PDK, and my F80 with DCT.

Not sure an opinion has anything to do with my skill as a driver.
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      12-08-2017, 05:57 PM   #68
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Shares an engine with the x3!? I never thought I'd see the day. And automatic!? RIP
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      12-08-2017, 06:05 PM   #69
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Shares an engine with the x3!? I never thought I'd see the day. And automatic!? RIP
The M5 and M6 have been using the recycled X5M motor for two generations now. Just a matter of time until the same happened to the M3.
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      12-08-2017, 06:17 PM   #70
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weird!! the muffler seems a little low! maybe to accommodate a Battery for a Hybrid power train???:

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LET'S HOPE NOT!!!!!

I know the most logical thing is that the G80 will use the same power train of the F90 (except the engine, of course, S58 on G80!!)
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      12-08-2017, 06:19 PM   #71
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You might need to...you know...learn how to drive then.
Because I haven’t enjoyed ZF autos?

The ones I’ve driven have felt sluggish (from the perspective of the transmission response) in comparison with my last two cars, a 981 with PDK, and my F80 with DCT.

Not sure an opinion has anything to do with my skill as a driver.
I think he was making a joke about needing to learn how to drive manual.
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      12-08-2017, 06:33 PM   #72
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With CLAR, I really think that the next generation of BMWs could take a big jump in performance.

I also think that they could really achieve significant weight savings. That is probably the reason for bringing back the CSL moniker.

Still question the 6 MT bit. I hope we get it but do not think we will.
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My dream M3 would have secondary electric power in the front wheels for fast starts and acceleration ou of turns. Of course, weight would/does matter. I don’t give a shit on transmission as long as it blends well with the car.
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Bmw should either vomit to AWD or RWD IMO. They don't need all these options.

M5 is getting good reviews do they should use that and keep an 400hp M2 around!
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      12-08-2017, 07:23 PM   #75
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Let's have a toast for BMW M-DCT. The slippery slope.
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      12-08-2017, 08:03 PM   #77
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Yawn. Let me know when it has more than a lawnmower for an engine.
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Bmw should either vomit to AWD or RWD IMO. They don't need all these options.

M5 is getting good reviews do they should use that and keep an 400hp M2 around!
Where are these good M5 reviews you're seeing?
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Bmw should either vomit to AWD or RWD IMO. They don't need all these options.

M5 is getting good reviews do they should use that and keep an 400hp M2 around!
Where are these good M5 reviews you're seeing?
Car and driver lol look we know you're a modern bmw hater you troll every forum
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      12-08-2017, 08:35 PM   #80
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Love all the hate.

This will probably bring the M3 back to the undisputed KING in class.

S58 with 500HP on the CLAR platform
M-XDrive with RWD setting
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      12-08-2017, 09:54 PM   #81
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Spring of 2020 is probably when they'll have the press test drive. Then summer of 2020 is most likely when they'll go on sale since it's in line with the usual 6 year between each generation debuts for M3.

Expect to see incandescent tail lights and whatnot, then LCI 1.5 years later.

Not sure why some are upset by the parts bin sharing, if it works well and the car feels special, then I don't care where it came from. Besides, there are tons of advantages for both the end user and the manufacturer when they share the same drivetrain across several models
What's the advantage for the end user?
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      12-08-2017, 10:09 PM   #84
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I think he was making a joke about needing to learn how to drive manual.
I missed that.

Since I've had many manuals.
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      12-09-2017, 01:25 AM   #85
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Yawn. Let me know when it has more than a lawnmower for an engine.
Why are you even here?
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I would love an M xDrive option for wet Seattle.
What about the summer time ?
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I hope they have the Mxdrive as optional so people will see the performance difference.

Then we'll see how many "purists" there are that are so angry about awd on an M car that they will let the xdrive cars smoke them just out of principle.

People have been dramatic about it but I still strongly stick by my statement that the f80 is heavily held back by traction issues. The response: "learn to properly modulate throttle" is the classic, but the fact is with how heavily you have to modulate throttle on these cars to keep the tires sticking you aren't accessing the power that you've got.

Just improving traction (hopefully without much new weight) would add real performance to the next gen. If its sniffing 500hp with mxdrive.... this car will be a blast.
Bro even in F1 cars you have to modulate throttle. Not too many awd race cars. Lol

You know m3 is a race car right? Ha
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