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Very Important - I will not consider the G80 unless a Manual Gearbox is offered. | 134 | 50.95% | |
Quite Important - I strongly prefer MT. If not offered, I would strongly consider competitors. | 35 | 13.31% | |
Somewhat Important - I enjoy driving MT, but am open to DCT or ZF 8AT. | 34 | 12.93% | |
Not Important/Indifferent - I don't care, 6MT, DCT, ZF 8AT, doesn't matter. | 15 | 5.70% | |
I don't like Manual Transmissions. | 11 | 4.18% | |
I think it would be great if BMW still offers a manual transmission for those who want it, but I prefer faster shifts | 34 | 12.93% | |
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09-18-2018, 06:51 PM | #23 | |
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09-20-2018, 03:06 PM | #24 |
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Can you add an option as manual only offered in American cars only and raised two inches on leaf springs. Cmon its 2018 and manual?? most cars stepped away from that. I would never ever go back to manual - i thought it was important before, but truly it sucks.
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I really hope manual is not offered just for the reason that my manual F8x///M will then hold its value if not go up haha
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09-22-2018, 05:39 PM | #27 |
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So for everyone who says they're out if no manual, what will you drive that has one? Porsche? Corvette? Not many options anymore...
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I leased my F32 so I could roll out of it easily if the G82 came in manual (and I liked it). If not I'll hold onto it and save up for a 992. More power, better dynamics, and an extra gear. Porsche has been my dream car for a while now, so an even better reason to upgrade. Just a loooot more expensive.
I like coupes so I have a few other options. But I don't know what options will be available for 4-door folks. |
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I'll be getting a manual M3 if it's offered. My wife would like it much better. I had a '15 F80 and my wife was really not very interested in it bc it was DCT. Got a '16 with 6MT and she loved it. Go figure.
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For those lucky enough to be able to get a car like a 718, 911, Z06, ZL1, or GT350, that's awesome. In the world of sport coupes, there are a ton a of manual transmission options. GOOD options too. If the M4 drops the manual, then you'll see a LOT of defectors. That's why it makes sense that they might just offer both the M3 and M4 in a manual. Although, it still doesn't make sense why they'd offer the M3/M4 in a manual but not the 3/4 series. They're similar enough that it'd be a trivial thing. |
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In Europe, at least one G20 model (320d) is still available with 6MT. So it's still physically possible, however bleak the chances.
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If I'm not mistaken, there are plenty of bikes your friend can choose from so there's no reason to buy a car if he doesn't want to. |
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So where people would buy BMWs in the last few years because it's the only one with a manual trans, now they are more free to explore other brands that have more power, cost less, look better, depreciate less, etc. Because either way they won't get the manual trans they wish was offered. |
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It smokes the Golf lol
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I am one of those manual buyers who will consider other brands if BMW ditches so I know where you're coming form. However, BMW has obviously concluded that the cost/benefit favors ditching and they have accepted that a few people may shop elsewhere and your "threat" that you may choose another brand falls on deaf ears. |
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And the F80 wasn't the "only one" with manual transmission. The ATS-V also had manual. But if you were to restrict that it had to be German, then, yes, the F80 was the only one. But this again goes to the general point that the less restrictions you impose the more choices you have, so it's moot and stating the obvious. But as I explained above to upsidedownfunnel, BMW doesn't care if you cross shop because the take up on manuals is immaterial, so go ahead, make their day. |
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Not at the price point (.)
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The Golf R is a fine car (almost bought one). But the CTR has far more character. The Golf R is good at a lot of things, but not great at any one thing. Maybe you could say it has the best interior, but at $40k you can get other cars with better interiors. Also, it costs $40k now. The CTR can be had for $35k (theoretically).
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Anyone know the actual % of F80 M3s that were sold with a manual? as from the Poll, 2/3 say its very important or somewhat important.
I personally would never get an M3 without a Manual. If everyone is so concerned about an auto being faster, and this is one of the reasons why you would buy an auto, there are many ways to fix this issue on an M3 manual |
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