Other Comparable Brands VS 330i xDrive?

newmanjr · 07-17-2023, 12:56 PM

Hello,

I am looking to either replace my 2021 330i xDrive for same but new model or a completely different comparable sedan.

Thoughts?

zobr · 07-17-2023, 01:07 PM

IMO, no one even comes close.

ArchJR · 07-17-2023, 02:43 PM

I have been asking myself the same question. The only new model in the segment since 2021 is the new C-class. The A4, Giulia, CT4/5, S60, IS, TLX, G70, and Q50 have not changed. Some seem to be languishing until the inevitable end of the ICE sport sedan. The C43 is tempting just to have something different after a bunch of BMWs, but the fuel economy is awful. The C300 felt too floaty.

Mostly I am down to the i4 xDrive40, M340i (thinking the inline six could forgive some sins of the LCI de-contenting), and the refreshed Polestar 2 RWD.

toddwalton · 07-18-2023, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zobr

IMO, no one even comes close.

This.

Another 330i, or of course the 430i as a magnificent changeup.

tturedraider · 07-18-2023, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newmanjr

Hello,

I am looking to either replace my 2021 330i xDrive for same but new model or a completely different comparable sedan.

Thoughts?

In today’s market why replace a 2021?

billnchristy · 07-18-2023, 09:36 AM

This dilemma haunts me every time it's time for a new car. And I always come back. BMW knows how to make a drivetrain work. Look at every car with comparable power to the 330 or 340 and you'll see they are significantly slower and usually worse MPG. The boys and girls know their stuff when it comes to making an engine and trans sing together and it's just silly how much better they are at times.

Montaver · 07-18-2023, 10:08 AM

Not sure what your budget is, personally I'd be curious to try an S4. Have an S6 in the family and its very impressive indeed.

Burrcold · 07-18-2023, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Montaver

Not sure what your budget is, personally I'd be curious to try an S4. Have an S6 in the family and its very impressive indeed.

Owned both, and the S4 is short on chassis dynamics, and handling (and engine performance) vs the M340i - the A4 is actually quicker than the 330i. The A4/S4 are more comfortable in my opinion, and has a better stereo. Tech is on the older side now though (aside from the virtual cockpit). As a package, I'd go G20 any day.

Montaver · 07-18-2023, 11:40 AM

Its an interesting comparison, the A4 is an older platform at this point. I can only really compare to the S6. The S6 B&O system absolutely blows away the HK in the m340i, best audio system I've ever heard in a car. Seats are much better, way more luxurious interior, plus it has some really nice advanced stuff (air suspension, rear wheel steer etc.). Its actually nicer to drive than the m340i in a lot of ways, particularly holding the steering wheel. The current M steering wheel is stupidly thick, I find it really irritating over any real distance. S6 MSRP is pushing towards $90k though which is significantly more than an m340i. Dynamically they didn't feel that different just cruising around, in fact I almost prefer the Audis lighter steering and more linear brake feel. If the overall feeling of the S4 is similar I think it would be a very good option, was honestly surprised how much I enjoy the Audi vibe.

dhock_holiday · 07-18-2023, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Montaver

Its an interesting comparison, the A4 is an older platform at this point. I can only really compare to the S6. The S6 B&O system absolutely blows away the HK in the m340i, best audio system I've ever heard in a car. Seats are much better, way more luxurious interior, plus it has some really nice advanced stuff (air suspension, rear wheel steer etc.). Its actually nicer to drive than the m340i in a lot of ways, particularly holding the steering wheel. The current M steering wheel is stupidly thick, I find it really irritating over any real distance. S6 MSRP is pushing towards $90k though which is significantly more than an m340i. Dynamically they didn't feel that different just cruising around, in fact I almost prefer the Audis lighter steering and more linear brake feel. If the overall feeling of the S4 is similar I think it would be a very good option, was honestly surprised how much I enjoy the Audi vibe.

Probably closer comparison would be the S5. It was something I was strongly considering but the platform is much older than the G20

The M340i should hold its value better than the Audi. Let’s see the new refresh and see how that compares

Burrcold · 07-18-2023, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Montaver

Its an interesting comparison, the A4 is an older platform at this point. I can only really compare to the S6. The S6 B&O system absolutely blows away the HK in the m340i, best audio system I've ever heard in a car. Seats are much better, way more luxurious interior, plus it has some really nice advanced stuff (air suspension, rear wheel steer etc.). Its actually nicer to drive than the m340i in a lot of ways, particularly holding the steering wheel. The current M steering wheel is stupidly thick, I find it really irritating over any real distance. S6 MSRP is pushing towards $90k though which is significantly more than an m340i. Dynamically they didn't feel that different just cruising around, in fact I almost prefer the Audis lighter steering and more linear brake feel. If the overall feeling of the S4 is similar I think it would be a very good option, was honestly surprised how much I enjoy the Audi vibe.

S6 is definitely a different level vs the G20 (even the M340i). It has the same engine as my RS5 and yours sounds loaded with air suspension, rear steer, etc. It's more akin to a 5 Series than 3 Series. The B10 generation of A5 (A4 will cease as an ICE vehicle after this year) will be interesting.

LarryMarcia · 07-18-2023, 12:49 PM

FYI — my comparison BMW v Audi

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...highlight=Audi

Montaver · 07-18-2023, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold

S6 is definitely a different level vs the G20 (even the M340i). It has the same engine as my RS5 and yours sounds loaded with air suspension, rear steer, etc. It's more akin to a 5 Series than 3 Series. The B10 generation of A5 (A4 will cease as an ICE vehicle after this year) will be interesting.

Yeah it's direct comparo is the M550i, which I think is now end of production or certainly very very close. The S6 is my brothers, he was originally in the market for an SQ5 but the S6 is crazy good value these days on the lightly used market as everyone wants SUV's. Interior wise it's Audi at its best, beautiful leather and materials (dry carbon trim, super soft merino leather etc.) It replaced a base A4 which I also quite liked when I drove it.

LarryMarcia · 07-18-2023, 12:55 PM

FYI — my comparison BMW v Audi

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...highlight=Audi

dudley@07726 · 07-18-2023, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryMarcia

FYI — my comparison BMW v Audi

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...highlight=Audi

I had a 2106 Audi A6. Great driving car but unfortunately for me, shit reliability.
In under 30k miles, it was on its 3rd water pump and I replaced the electronic parking brake module. Traded it in for a new 23 M340i. I’m done with Volkswagen group. Don’t regret it thus far.

LarryMarcia · 07-18-2023, 09:37 PM

I've personally found similar reliability in BMW and Audi - both being excellent.

07-17-2023, 12:56 PM	#1
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ArchJR Lieutenant 205 Rep 459 Posts Drives: 2024 i4 xDrive40 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	I have been asking myself the same question. The only new model in the segment since 2021 is the new C-class. The A4, Giulia, CT4/5, S60, IS, TLX, G70, and Q50 have not changed. Some seem to be languishing until the inevitable end of the ICE sport sedan. The C43 is tempting just to have something different after a bunch of BMWs, but the fuel economy is awful. The C300 felt too floaty. Mostly I am down to the i4 xDrive40, M340i (thinking the inline six could forgive some sins of the LCI de-contenting), and the refreshed Polestar 2 RWD. __________________ _______________________________ current: G20 330i retired: G30 540i, F10 528i, F30 328i
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Montaver Lieutenant Colonel 2220 Rep 1,678 Posts Drives: G87 M2 & M340i LCI Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Its an interesting comparison, the A4 is an older platform at this point. I can only really compare to the S6. The S6 B&O system absolutely blows away the HK in the m340i, best audio system I've ever heard in a car. Seats are much better, way more luxurious interior, plus it has some really nice advanced stuff (air suspension, rear wheel steer etc.). Its actually nicer to drive than the m340i in a lot of ways, particularly holding the steering wheel. The current M steering wheel is stupidly thick, I find it really irritating over any real distance. S6 MSRP is pushing towards $90k though which is significantly more than an m340i. Dynamically they didn't feel that different just cruising around, in fact I almost prefer the Audis lighter steering and more linear brake feel. If the overall feeling of the S4 is similar I think it would be a very good option, was honestly surprised how much I enjoy the Audi vibe. Attached Images
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