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      03-12-2020, 09:19 PM   #1
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My first 9 months with the 2020 M340i

When I bought the M340i, the dealer assured me that all the issues I had with my 2007 335i were a thing of the past, that the engine in the M340i was so good, Toyota was using it in the Supra, and so on.

But after just a few months of driving, the exterior driver's side mirror stopped folding in and could not be adjusted, nor would it defrost either. So they replaced the whole shebang. Then when it finally started raining here in SoCal, the passenger's side headlight has lots of water build up in it. This was a laser headlight that had to be replaced, I note that just the headlight itself is $3,000 not including the labor to replace it. So after the first 9 months, the car has racked up around $5,000 in warranty work.

But other than these troubling issues, I love the car. Sure hope it doesn't eff me when the warranty runs out.
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When I bought the M340i, the dealer assured me that all the issues I had with my 2007 335i were a thing of the past, that the engine in the M340i was so good, Toyota was using it in the Supra, and so on.

But after just a few months of driving, the exterior driver's side mirror stopped folding in and could not be adjusted, nor would it defrost either. So they replaced the whole shebang. Then when it finally started raining here in SoCal, the passenger's side headlight has lots of water build up in it. This was a laser headlight that had to be replaced, I note that just the headlight itself is $3,000 not including the labor to replace it. So after the first 9 months, the car has racked up around $5,000 in warranty work.


But other than these troubling issues, I love the car. Sure hope it doesn't eff me when the warranty runs out.
These cars are best leased. It is under warranty when you own it. Never have to worry. About two and a half years in the love affair is over and you get to go trade her in for something new, fresh and sexy... Imagine if other things in life worked like that....
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When I bought the M340i, the dealer assured me that all the issues I had with my 2007 335i were a thing of the past, that the engine in the M340i was so good, Toyota was using it in the Supra, and so on.

But after just a few months of driving, the exterior driver's side mirror stopped folding in and could not be adjusted, nor would it defrost either. So they replaced the whole shebang. Then when it finally started raining here in SoCal, the passenger's side headlight has lots of water build up in it. This was a laser headlight that had to be replaced, I note that just the headlight itself is $3,000 not including the labor to replace it. So after the first 9 months, the car has racked up around $5,000 in warranty work.


But other than these troubling issues, I love the car. Sure hope it doesn't eff me when the warranty runs out.
These cars are best leased. It is under warranty when you own it. Never have to worry. About two and a half years in the love affair is over and you get to go trade her in for something new, fresh and sexy... Imagine if other things in life worked like that....
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When I bought the M340i, the dealer assured me that all the issues I had with my 2007 335i were a thing of the past, that the engine in the M340i was so good, Toyota was using it in the Supra, and so on.

But after just a few months of driving, the exterior driver's side mirror stopped folding in and could not be adjusted, nor would it defrost either. So they replaced the whole shebang. Then when it finally started raining here in SoCal, the passenger's side headlight has lots of water build up in it. This was a laser headlight that had to be replaced, I note that just the headlight itself is $3,000 not including the labor to replace it. So after the first 9 months, the car has racked up around $5,000 in warranty work.


But other than these troubling issues, I love the car. Sure hope it doesn't eff me when the warranty runs out.
These cars are best leased. It is under warranty when you own it. Never have to worry. About two and a half years in the love affair is over and you get to go trade her in for something new, fresh and sexy... Imagine if other things in life worked like that....
LOL. I'm absolutely leasing my next wife. Thanks for the tip
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These cars are best leased. It is under warranty when you own it. Never have to worry. About two and a half years in the love affair is over and you get to go trade her in for something new, fresh and sexy... Imagine if other things in life worked like that....
I've bought every new car I've owned and I keep telling myself this is the one I'm keeping 5 years. I've found if I keep it ~3.3-4 years is around where the money would have been the same

My m340i is the one I'm keeping 5 years... I mean iconic engine , probably one of the last gen gasoline only cars!

So yeah I've kept my cars maybe an average of 3.5 years the last 5 times. I hope this one last 5 years without any major issues though, my last BMW was totally fine for almost 4.5
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Question My 9 months has been (almost) event free

Traded in a 6-series MSport for a loaded M340 Xdrive, last June.
Having owned numerous prior BMWs, (3,5,6,7 Series)not to mention Maseratis, Saab Aeros, Hondas, Acura's, etc. I can honestly say this is my best car to date. Other than the dealer I purchased it from, I have absolutely no regrets. Great daily driver and quick or quicker than an M3 when needed. As importantly, the brakes are as quick as the engine. The iDrive 7.0 and wireless CarPlay tech is head and shoulders above the rest. I STRONGLY recommend the wheel/tire/cooling upgrade that gives you 19" Michelin Pilot Sports non RFT's, and the adaptive suspension.

Two questions for other M340 owners:

1) Did your cars come with the rear lip spoiler and front fender M badges (left and Right) installed? Mine did not. After arguing with me that my car didn't come with that spoiler (wrong, ALL M340's do, and mine was loaded with options!), the dealer took 7 months to order and install it. They still need to properly fix the slight scratches on the trunk lid.

2) Does you blinker have the automatic cancelling feature (brief tap to cancel) that came standard on my 2008 535 M Sport? Mine doesn't, and it annoys me that a 2020 $70K car with laser headlights didn't include this as standard gear. Same is true for full power seats and steering column adjustment.

I'm probably being too picky, but I'm interested in your thoughts.
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1) Did your cars come with the rear lip spoiler and front fender M badges (left and Right) installed? Mine did not. After arguing with me that my car didn't come with that spoiler (wrong, ALL M340's do, and mine was loaded with options!), the dealer took 7 months to order and install it. They still need to properly fix the slight scratches on the trunk lid.

2) Does you blinker have the automatic cancelling feature (brief tap to cancel) that came standard on my 2008 535 M Sport? Mine doesn't, and it annoys me that a 2020 $70K car with laser headlights didn't include this as standard gear. Same is true for full power seats and steering column adjustment.
Yes to the rear lip spoiler, no to the fender m badges. I have seen non US-spec M340i's in pictures that do have the fender m badging, but I believe US spec for whatever reason don't have it.

As far as full power seats I assume you mean the thigh support which is manual? I think others in this class also don't have power thigh support. The one thing that did surprise me was the steering column adjustment. I think most other cars in this segment do come with power adjustable steering. It cheapens it a bit but I suppose it doesn't bother me much since my wife likes to stay away from my M340i (she says it's too low, too uncomfortable, and too fast ) So no need to adjust it after the first time I adjusted it to my liking.
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The one thing that did surprise me was the steering column adjustment. I think most other cars in this segment do come with power adjustable steering. It cheapens it a bit
AGREED.

It was a chintzy move on BMWs part. All of the vehicles in this category (and certainly price range) have it motozized.

The lack of truly full-power seating is also a cop-out.
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AGREED.

It was a chintzy move on BMWs part. All of the vehicles in this category (and certainly price range) have it motozized.

The lack of truly full-power seating is also a cop-out.
Audi A4/5/S4/5 doesn't have power steering column either.
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I still think my biggest regret with this car will have not been ordering it with the adaptive suspension. Too late now
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The one thing that did surprise me was the steering column adjustment. I think most other cars in this segment do come with power adjustable steering. It cheapens it a bit
AGREED.

It was a chintzy move on BMWs part. All of the vehicles in this category (and certainly price range) have it motozized.

The lack of truly full-power seating is also a cop-out.
BMW's have been using the same mechanism for awhile. This doesn't bother me. Once I set my wheel up, I never touch it again. If the electric mechanism adds even 5 lbs, i wouldn't want it. I could see if you share your car with someone, it could get annoying.
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I still think my biggest regret with this car will have not been ordering it with the adaptive suspension. Too late now
I had adaptive suspension in my past vehicle and this time I don't have it in my M340i

I likewise had big regrets in the early stages of the ownership, but these days I actually have started to like not having the option of changing the suspension options. It drove me nuts at times having the option because I could never decide which setting I want the car to be on and it was a constant switching between the configuration.

I think I already play with the settings of casual/sport individual/sport+ option too much and adding another variable would make me even more indecisive, haha.

This is just my personal experience, but I think I enjoy the drive more with less configurable options now.
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BMW's have been using the same mechanism for awhile. This doesn't bother me. Once I set my wheel up, I never touch it again. If the electric mechanism adds even 5 lbs, i wouldn't want it. I could see if you share your car with someone, it could get annoying.
I believe it's this way because it's a sports sedan and if you are needing to change steering wheel position in a hurry for aggressive driving, it's faster. Just a guess...
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I believe it's this way because it's a sports sedan and if you are needing to change steering wheel position in a hurry for aggressive driving, it's faster. Just a guess...
Are you saying people change the steering wheel position while they're driving?
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I've bought every new car I've owned and I keep telling myself this is the one I'm keeping 5 years. I've found if I keep it ~3.3-4 years is around where the money would have been the same

My m340i is the one I'm keeping 5 years... I mean iconic engine , probably one of the last gen gasoline only cars!

So yeah I've kept my cars maybe an average of 3.5 years the last 5 times. I hope this one last 5 years without any major issues though, my last BMW was totally fine for almost 4.5
I'm keeping my '95 Porsche 993 C2 *F O R E V E R*
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I had adaptive suspension in my past vehicle and this time I don't have it in my M340i

I likewise had big regrets in the early stages of the ownership, but these days I actually have started to like not having the option of changing the suspension options. It drove me nuts at times having the option because I could never decide which setting I want the car to be on and it was a constant switching between the configuration.

I think I already play with the settings of casual/sport individual/sport+ option too much and adding another variable would make me even more indecisive, haha.

This is just my personal experience, but I think I enjoy the drive more with less configurable options now.
I opted for the fixed suspension also and had some preliminary regrets at first. When I test drove first with adjustable suspension, I thought it just wasn’t worth the premium. My old is350 had adjustable suspension and I found the difference to be largely negligible most of the time and I always kept it in sport setup. But when I took my fixed suspension home, I found it to be pretty rigid and bumpy. Fast forward 8 months and 4K miles and I have absolutely no complaints and find it to be the perfect mix of sport and comfort. So either the shocks/suspension have broken in and become less aggressive or I have mentally adjusted (probably a little bit of both). So no regrets for me with the fixed suspension.
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Audi A4/5/S4/5 doesn't have power steering column either.
Neither does the Volvo S60 or Jag XE.
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The one thing that did surprise me was the steering column adjustment. I think most other cars in this segment do come with power adjustable steering. It cheapens it a bit
AGREED.

It was a chintzy move on BMWs part. All of the vehicles in this category (and certainly price range) have it motozized.

The lack of truly full-power seating is also a cop-out.
Eh, my M4 had a manual steering adjustment... adds character.
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These cars are best leased. It is under warranty when you own it. Never have to worry. About two and a half years in the love affair is over and you get to go trade her in for something new, fresh and sexy... Imagine if other things in life worked like that....

My 2016 340 w/ MPPSK was my 7th Bimmer and the first one I financed. 2 years in I lost the 2nd gear synchro on my MT. Cost $14,000 to repair.....$0 under warranty. Yeah, I sold that thing when I came up on 4 years. Been love my leased M340 though!!!
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But other than these troubling issues, I love the car. Sure hope it doesn't eff me when the warranty runs out.
It's to be expected behaviour that a car, or any other machine, has a higher failure rate at the start and the end of its lifecycle.

Early lifetime trouble are a poor indicator for the aging reliability of the car, my e39 is 18 years old now and was never more reliable than the last 4 years.

So don't feel bad about this kind of stuff, shit happens.
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When I bought the M340i, the dealer assured me that all the issues I had with my 2007 335i were a thing of the past, that the engine in the M340i was so good, Toyota was using it in the Supra, and so on.

But after just a few months of driving, the exterior driver's side mirror stopped folding in and could not be adjusted, nor would it defrost either. So they replaced the whole shebang. Then when it finally started raining here in SoCal, the passenger's side headlight has lots of water build up in it. This was a laser headlight that had to be replaced, I note that just the headlight itself is $3,000 not including the labor to replace it. So after the first 9 months, the car has racked up around $5,000 in warranty work.


But other than these troubling issues, I love the car. Sure hope it doesn't eff me when the warranty runs out.
These cars are best leased. It is under warranty when you own it. Never have to worry. About two and a half years in the love affair is over and you get to go trade her in for something new, fresh and sexy... Imagine if other things in life worked like that....
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When I bought the M340i, the dealer assured me that all the issues I had with my 2007 335i were a thing of the past, that the engine in the M340i was so good, Toyota was using it in the Supra, and so on.

But after just a few months of driving, the exterior driver's side mirror stopped folding in and could not be adjusted, nor would it defrost either. So they replaced the whole shebang. Then when it finally started raining here in SoCal, the passenger's side headlight has lots of water build up in it. This was a laser headlight that had to be replaced, I note that just the headlight itself is $3,000 not including the labor to replace it. So after the first 9 months, the car has racked up around $5,000 in warranty work.


But other than these troubling issues, I love the car. Sure hope it doesn't eff me when the warranty runs out.
These cars are best leased. It is under warranty when you own it. Never have to worry. About two and a half years in the love affair is over and you get to go trade her in for something new, fresh and sexy... Imagine if other things in life worked like that....
LOL. I'm absolutely leasing my next wife. Thanks for the tip
What if women got to lease men instead? Why should women be objectified?

Anyway, to the op, it's probably a good idea to set aside some quick cash for repairs and maintenance if you plan to keep the car long after the warranty expires. This is true for any luxury brand, or any car for that matter, not just your particular car.
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What if women got to lease men instead? Why should women be objectified?

Anyway, to the op, it's probably a good idea to set aside some quick cash for repairs and maintenance if you plan to keep the car long after the warranty expires. This is true for any luxury brand, or any car for that matter, not just your particular car.
Do you think its worth to get any extra warranty etc?
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Are you saying people change the steering wheel position while they're driving?
No, I would hope not. I'm saying they may be at a light or at the track and want to do a minor adjustment based on previous lap. Hey I don't know what I am talking about. I have owned 7 series for the last 14 years and just figured with the driving style of 3 series owners are more aggressive. I would prefer the electronic option also but with the G20 now,I will take this tradeoff with all the other options available now.
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