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Meanwhile we have a car that's bigger, heavier, downgrade in tech (8AT), lost distinctive BMW cues and subjectively is an uglier design. But hey, they made it faster so that means it's "better" |
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I agree... as well as sorting out the rear quarter, which looks like a fat ar*e Merc. Wonderful car to drive from the sound of it, only let down by the cr*p exterior design.
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The more important question is ... has BMW fixed its poor shock damping, basic traction/stability control systems, and cabin noises.
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What other quantifiable measure can we work off of? Obviously I talk about straight line times as this is basically all we have at this point.....Ultimately I think Nring times are most important and agreed on the most important questions, in addition to how will it handle / corner with the extra weight.
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That is completely false. Faster track or drag times is literally just one factor in what makes a car better or improved. I have no doubt the G8x will be faster than the F8x in most if not all numbers, but it is most definitely worse in many other factors, which when combining all factors together, does not objectively mean a better car. Last edited by OG///M; 11-01-2020 at 11:38 PM.. |
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A quantum leap improvement in steering feel. |
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A vehicle that is larger and heavier is objectively worse when it comes to performance metrics. Just because it might be faster in certain regards, those two objective metrics have a negative detriment. You need more brakes, more cooling, more tire, more everything to deal with the increase. That's not a positive attribute. |
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A vehicle that is larger/heavier is not always objectively worse. Sure, more weight isn't something that we prefer, but it doesn't necessarily mean the car will perform worse. That is clearly evidenced when we take a car like the R35 and compare it to an F8X, for example. That car out performs our lighter, smaller BMW's by a significant margin. The heavier, more feature/amenity laden current model GT3 out performs its lighter predecessor. |
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What if the engine overheats after 4 laps? What if the brakes fade after 3 laps? Etc, etc. All things that are directly affected by an increase in weight and size. |
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An increase in size and weight is bad and a negative attribute of this design. Plus it looks ugly as sin. |
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We, as a community, have this weight conversation every new model. It wasn't that long ago people were calling the then new E46 M3 a heavy pig. Fast forward to the F8X and we had people trying to strip everything they could out of the cars to save a few pounds. It's cyclical. People will do the same thing with this car, and the car after that too. |
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Porsche has some cars you might be interested in
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