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How does the new CLA45 S compared to the M340i?
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com They're about the same price - around $75k CAD, loaded. Performance is similar too. The 384hp M340i does 0 - 100kmh in 4.3s while the 416hp CLA45 S does it in 4.0s. If you could choose between these two, which one would you pick? edit: sh1t just realized there is no cla45s in NA (benz why???????) The one I am talking about is actually the base 2o20 cla45 amg, the one without the s. Last edited by TrollingCavalier; 04-04-2020 at 02:11 PM.. |
04-04-2020, 02:19 AM | #2 |
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I can’t get over how poorly shaped the CLA is. Whoever designed that must have been high on cough syrup.
Both are fast cars - I personally like how the M340i looks much better. Ultimately up to the buyer tho. Drive both and see how they feel. I avoided test driving the Mercedes so I can’t really compare the two. |
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04-04-2020, 04:30 AM | #3 |
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The 4 cyl sounds awful.
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04-04-2020, 06:26 AM | #4 |
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Why is the C43 not a worthy competitor to the M340i? It's more closely related to the 3 Series than the CLA is. Are the 0 to 60 times the only thing you're looking at?
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04-04-2020, 07:05 AM | #5 |
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its their economy platform with basically the most awesome 4 cylinder on the planet, though again still a 4 cylinder with matching sound. I didn't even consider it compared to the m340i.... I mean if they come out with a 375hp version of the m235 grancoupe I wouldn't consider it either.
I did test drive a C450 a few years ago and know the C43 should at least be in the ballpark with the M340i. |
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I actually like the look of the CLA.
My issues with it however are the following: 4 cylinders.... No matter how advanced 4 cylinders become, they're not as balanced and smooth as a good old 6 cylinder motor. Front Wheel Bias.... Although it's an AWD 4matic setup, it's front wheeled bias which naturally tends towards understeer. Interior Quality.... As an entry level model, the interior quality and materials are compromised compared to a c class or a 3 series.
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I don't understand why anyone would buy either of the FWD small cars. At that point there are many much less expensive competitors and there is nothing really special about either car. |
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On the other hand, the all-new cla45s has a really aggressive exterior with a decent interior. (Performance is also good for a 4-cylinder) So that's why for me personally, I would choose between cla45s and m340i instead of c43s and m340i. |
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But I highly suspect that m340i would beat the f out of cla45s in terms of handling. The thing is, I don't really like the exterior m340i. The new 3 series looks good, but for m340i I expect it to have a more invasive and sporty exterior because it is a more sporty version of the regular 3 series. TBH, 330i and m340i looks nearly identical, except that bronze looking grill and the vertical intake thingy. (Plus the exhaust) cla45s is different. I could instantly tell it is different than any regular cla because of the aerodynamic package. |
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Impressive stats for a 4 cylinder and rumor has it next gen C43/C63 will also utilize 4 cylinder turbos along with hybrid motors. I am curious to see how that pans out. 4 cylinder kills excitement for me..
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04-04-2020, 12:32 PM | #12 |
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75k for cla wow!
fwd 4cyl vs rwd I6 ... no comparison period!! cla compres to audi a3/s3. I agree the design of the 3 series is not great but chassis and drivetrain is on another planet compred to cla. I don't consider fancy fwd benz as luxury car but it's your money spend it any way you like. Just understand what's under the skin. |
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I don't consider it as a luxury car tbh, I could buy a decent speced e300(maybe even e450) with that money, but no that is not what I want to drive. All I want is a car with decent exterior and interior and a bit of performance. I guess for me personally I would value exterior over performance. Probably too young to realize how overpriced the benz is |
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The car you are looking for is M2, M2c or even M240i. |
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Sounds to me like straight line performance and looks are at the top of OP's wish-list. Since looks are subjective, and the CLA has a slight edge in straight line performance over the M340, then the CLA may be the car to get.
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I do agree with you that his requirements are very simple and many cars can meet them regardless of what's under the skin. |
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The thing is, as a driver that ONLY drove BMW before, I do not know what other car's "Handling" is like. Plus I really don't see the extra "handling" you guys referred to, is really that useful on the public road. I won't be doing tracks, and as any other driver on the road, I use indicators to change lanes, never done something overly aggressive. Is this, the "ultimate driving machine" really really that necessary with all that rear steering, anti-roll, stabilization on PUBLIC roads? I am not cutting into a corner at a speed of 100km or above, and no I am not dive bomb anybody to experience how all of that fancy "handling" power can give. Plus I never ever had a moment in my life, that actually appreciates how good the BMW drives. (Probably I should try the e300L (yes, that long wheelbase Benz aimed for the Chinese market) if I get the chance, then I probably will start to understand how BMW is really good at handling.) So, as a non-typical young BMW driver, I do not drive like an asshole. I probably would just floor the thing once in a while, but that's about it. I don't need to drive it like I stole it on the public road, and neither do any of you guys. So please tell me, who as a young driver that only drove BMWs in his life, why would I need this "handling" performance? |
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As for the comparison between the M340 and CLA 45, its a bit of a weird one, however, I'd imagine that the CLA could be more fun as its likely to be a little more raw and engaging. Yes its a FWD based chassis, but drift mode seems pretty cool, the exhaust isn't terrible, although will not be anywhere close to that of a C43 or M340, but it depends on how much you care about that. The last CLA45 was around ~3500lbs, and the M340 is closer to two tons around ~3900lbs, and the CLA is shorter as is the wheelbase so the CLA may actually be more agile. Honestly I would wait for CLA 45's to arrive at dealers and test drive one, it seems like a pretty cool car, and reviewers seem to have praised it and they fixed a lot of poor aspects of the previous model, and I do agree that it looks better and really good, but I am biased being that the CLA is designed as a mini version of what I drive.
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I just personally don't like c43 for some reason. I never technically drove a "small" sedan before in my life, so I guess I want to try it out. Practicality wise I guess c / 3 series will definitely win. However, I have a big suv so I guess I just need a car that is agile and swift |
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