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They should give the M3 Pure a 444hp V8 or I6 naturally aspirated engine. That would make it truly "Pure"
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I'm not worried about manual vs auto (sorry manual lovers, that ship sailed long time ago for me after using DCT for some time).
I do wish, however, that they had a DCT option. I'm sure the auto will have a tiptronic/steptronic functionality where you can manually change gears and downshift, etc, but it won't be nearly as fast or as thrilling as the dual clutch. Surely it will have rev-matching as well, but again, just wished DCT would've been an option. the key question will become price for me, between the base vs comp. if the base (474hp) comes in around 70k, and they slap a 8-10k upcharge for the competition (closer to 80k for a base competition), i think I may have to seriously consider the possibility of a CPO 992 S for around $100k in a couple of years. but I'm hoping I'm wrong, and the competition "base" price will be closer to 70k than to 80k
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Don't bet the house yet on the tuners bumping up the HP. BMW AG is onto the DME flash tuning (too many warranty claims), the S58 hasn't even seen the light of day yet, maybe the DME has been locked down— similar to Apple iOS Secure Enclave.
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It doesn't punch as hard as the DCT on upshift but it's not slow by any means. I went through 3 of the ZF 8's in my ISF and RCFs I'm extremely tempted by an AWD M3, but a P-Car or '18 GTR would be in the mix |
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some nice info there. smaller front wheels, hmm prob be switching that up when I get mine
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This seems like a cousin of the Porsche model. If dealerships start marking up certain models, I will absolutely be mildly upset.
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So a 2020 M3 CS AWD with a ZF 8 , 500HP, can you say 0-60 hmm say 2.5 seconds or so.
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Seems illogical ( to me ) that pure is below base.
Shouldnt it be base 444hp, ( stripper ? ) pure with 475hp, ( nice starting point ) and comp with 500hp ? Just curious if that's correct is all. No big Cool post OP Stay lit 🔥 No she's not a stripper , Yes she's a manual.
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I think the Pure version having less power (and by some rumors, a lesser engine) makes a hard sale, regardless if it came in MT or AT. People trying to frame this as "MT guys got what they asked for" are missing the point.
Like some other members have said, when you buy an M, you sort of expect to get 100% of BMWs effort at that moment in time (sans transmission choice, since that is a very personal choice). By dropping $70-80k on a car that BMW only put 90% into leaves a sour taste in your mouth, especially when there are so many great options out there for those who aren't stuck on getting a sedan. I was originally thinking about upgrading to a MT M3, but I am really on the fence about this. |
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BMW has defined what the next M3 will be, and that vision obviously includes an auto trans and M-AWD. Hence, it's the standard version. They know that there is still a stubborn enthusiast market for 6MT+RWD, and they aren't quite ready abandon them yet. This is how they accomplish that while signaling with a wink and a nod that 6MT's are going the way of the dodo. This helps limit the number of configurations they have to build and stock while still keeping a 6MT for those that want one. The 6MT RWD will clearly have less capability than the AWD version, so it makes sense to market it at the low end of the range and tout its "purist" focus. The price will likely be a very marginal increase over today's M3, and I wouldn't be surprised if it had an S55 rather than and S58.
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But I fear that the only manual option will be RWD only. I really hope to be wrong.
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