[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Jim45678

its really disappointing that none of you noticed that Matt was obviously cheating to not loose against RS5. What a shame that you are so spoiled.

RS5 is better car than M440, however it never should have RS badge but S only. Audi got lost and its RS division is nothing it used to be. The only "RS" cars that truly can stand to RS badge is RS3 and R8.

It shouldn't have an RS badge? Lol. Because it's not the fastest in its segment in straight line speed? It never has been, and it bests all previous versions in every possible metric with the exception of sound (vs the B8 V8). Not much different from the E90 to present M3/4 though in that regard.

[Jim45678]

well ... as former owner of Audis S3 / S4/ R8 V8 / R8 V10 i can relate.
It always was this way...

330 / 335 - S cars
M cars - RS cars

now RS cars cant keep up with 340/440 that's why i say they dont deserve real RS badge. I never said they are no better than previous generations. Yes they are but they can't keep up with M cars anymore.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Jim45678

well ... as former owner of Audis S3 / S4/ R8 V8 / R8 V10 i can relate.
It always was this way...

330 / 335 - S cars
M cars - RS cars

now RS cars cant keep up with 340/440 that's why i say they dont deserve real RS badge. I never said they are no better than previous generations. Yes they are but they can't keep up with M cars anymore.

RS cars can't keep up with a 340/440?? Are you high? Sorry but I've owned both, and an RS5 bests an M340i/440i in every category. Is the RS5 as dynamic as the NEW M3/4? No, absolutely not. But keep in mind it's also on an almost 6 year old platform in the B9 generation.

Besides all that, not everyone is looking for all out performance in an M/RS/AMG product. RS models do a very good job of an all arounder sports sedan, and to my eyes (subjective) they look a hell of a lot better.

[Jim45678]

in terms of looks i can agree RS5 look better than M3/m4. BUt RS cant keep up with M car anymore. THey were rivals but they are not anymore. As i said...

S cars competed with 335 / 340/440 now
RS cars competed with M cars

its not the case anymore since RS cars barely stand to 340/440. THats my point.

[iifymbro]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

RS cars can't keep up with a 340/440?? Are you high? Sorry but I've owned both, and an RS5 bests an M340i/440i in every category. Is the RS5 as dynamic as the NEW M3/4? No, absolutely not. But keep in mind it's also on an almost 6 year old platform in the B9 generation.

Besides all that, not everyone is looking for all out performance in an M/RS/AMG product. RS models do a very good job of an all arounder sports sedan, and to my eyes (subjective) they look a hell of a lot better.

RS5 is also like 85k+ decently optioned out, would be a scandal if it didn't edge out a M340i lol, it's mildly scandalous that it's even as close as it is IMO

Looks pretty good except the wavy shoulder line, I can't stand that design language. They also really need to update the car, that interior is ancient