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      05-29-2022, 10:21 AM   #45
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Is it just me or does it appear that the person's voice doesn't quite match the video? It might have just been the editing but it is a bit off putting. That being said, I'm on the fence regarding the rear diffuser.
The guy's mouth moves so slowly while he talks (also so slowly) the whole thing is tough to watch. I sped it up to 1.5x just to get a normal speaking speed.

BUT - at 2:03-ish he is mouthing "there are 4 petrol & 4 diesel engines" but they overdub the correct info "5 diesel engines".

So yep, you saw a disconnect at least there.
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
Oh let's not for the "regular" performance models are expected to get ….. quad pipes!🤯
Yea but those are fake quads tips. For some reason they don't connect the tips to the exhaust. As soon as I noticed that had to get full exhaust with real quad tips. That separated crap I couldn't deal with
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
Oh let's not for the "regular" performance models are expected to get ….. quad pipes!🤯
Yea but those are fake quads tips. For some reason they don't connect the tips to the exhaust. As soon as I noticed that had to get full exhaust with real quad tips. That separated crap I couldn't deal with
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I'm assuming that's frozen portimao blue with new m front splitter and carbon fiber rear diffuser. Looks good. The rear diffuser looks crazy aggressive
They should make this front optional on M3 lol
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Is it just me or does it appear that the person's voice doesn't quite match the video? It might have just been the editing but it is a bit off putting. That being said, I'm on the fence regarding the rear diffuser.
The guy's mouth moves so slowly while he talks (also so slowly) the whole thing is tough to watch. I sped it up to 1.5x just to get a normal speaking speed.

BUT - at 2:03-ish he is mouthing "there are 4 petrol & 4 diesel engines" but they overdub the correct info "5 diesel engines".

So yep, you saw a disconnect at least there.
It was really disconcerting to listen to lol.

Car looks good though and the touring looks great!
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I gotta say I am happy with this facelift. The only thing I really don't "get" is the odd angled body line aft the front wheels at the bottom. Seems like "different" for "different's sake" instead of something that flows logically or connects to anything else.

Combined with the line at the bumped, makes the front end look like a funnel, which to my eye weighs it down. I think if the angle of that like flowed with & into the arch of the front wheel, it would look better.

(I know that line was on the pre-LCI, too.)
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
Lmfao yeah I don't know anything huh. Haha you sound salty af, there's a reason why people don't really get frozen on the regular 3 series. Why you mad? Cuz you have a regular 3? Lmaoo have a seat. I never said the non m 3 can't look good or is not good, that's just your insecurities coming out 😂 now go try to make yours look better
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
Oh let's not for the "regular" performance models are expected to get ….. quad pipes!🤯
Yea but those are fake quads tips. For some reason they don't connect the tips to the exhaust. As soon as I noticed that had to get full exhaust with real quad tips. That separated crap I couldn't deal with
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
Lmfao yeah I don't know anything huh. Haha you sound salty af, there's a reason why people don't really get frozen on the regular 3 series. Why you mad? Cuz you have a regular 3? Lmaoo have a seat. I never said the non m 3 can't look good or is not good, that's just your insecurities coming out 😂 now go try to make yours look better
I'm salty. If I was salty about my "regular 3". I would just jump in my e92. STUPID. I just can't stand when people hate on other cars. You don't hear people talking shit that you driving a m3 that every 19 year old kid got with a burble tune and a wing. Who gives a fuck is the point.
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I don't understand these people(mostly some M
owners) being too concerned about a regular 3 or 4 series having some aesthetic M looking parts, what's the big deal? It's not like they are putting M3/M4 badges on these cars. Those who know can differentiate it easily and those who don't, don't really care. Let people do what they want to do with their cars and keep the elitism and snobbism to yourself.
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I don't understand these people(mostly some M
owners) being too concerned about a regular 3 or 4 series having some aesthetic M looking parts, what's the big deal? It's not like they are putting M3/M4 badges on these cars. Those who know can differentiate it easily and those who don't, don't really care. Let people do what they want to do with their cars and keep the elitism and snobbism to yourself.
AMG crowd agrees with you.
Some non-M cars have more ///M badges on them than the real M cars...
The M-brand is definitely devalued lately not only with the exterior plastic pieces but also with some features previously dedicated to M cars only...
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AMG crowd agrees with you.
Some non-M cars have more ///M badges on them than the real M cars...
The M-brand is definitely devalued lately not only with the exterior plastic pieces but also with some features previously dedicated to M cars only...
Nobody cares man, badges has no impact on your car. Do you like your M2C less because of this. Why did you get the car? to impress your neighbors. Besides an M340i cost about the same as an M2C so it's not like an M2 is even that much more expensive. If you want exclusivity go buy an M1. It seems too many people are concerned that the general public who's already clueless won't be able to differentiate who spent more for their cars between the M performance and the M owners.

We buy the M340i because it fits our needs, nobody buys one of these thinking it's a substitute for a G80. Or with the intent of willfully deceiving his or her neighbor that they have just acquired a so-called "real M car".

The people who bemoan daily about what BMW is doing are only concerned because to them an M car is more about being a status symbol. At end of the day we all know what we bought and are driving. An M car isn't for the elite , Porsche carries that mantle. If your goal is to impress the neighbors buy that because outside of us bimmer fanboys, strangers on the street don't think M cars are that special nowadays.
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
Lmfao yeah I don't know anything huh. Haha you sound salty af, there's a reason why people don't really get frozen on the regular 3 series. Why you mad? Cuz you have a regular 3? Lmaoo have a seat. I never said the non m 3 can't look good or is not good, that's just your insecurities coming out 😂 now go try to make yours look better
I'm salty. If I was salty about my "regular 3". I would just jump in my e92. STUPID. I just can't stand when people hate on other cars. You don't hear people talking shit that you driving a m3 that every 19 year old kid got with a burble tune and a wing. Who gives a fuck is the point.
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
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So that's great they're coming with frozen colors for regular 3 series… and I swear I saw the m side mirrors in the video too…keep devaluing the actual M cars. They should keep those options only for the M cars. Now the only real difference will be the drivetrain smh
Other differences include suspension, brakes, differential, engine, gearbox, seats, body styling, wheels.. but sure add the M mirrors and they are the same car?
That's all the differences underneath obv. Of course the styling is a tad different, but they got fake side vents now etc. Any normal person isn't gonna know the difference of brakes and suspension etc and isn't the gearbox the same now? Interior is minor difference now with the big screen just trim and seats. They shouldn't have frozen colors on regular 3 series, those are for the higher end models on most manufacturers I can think of.
You obviously kno nothing because you can order any car with frozen paint from factory if your willing to pay for it. You can also order from factor every carbon fiber part bmw makes added to any car. From factory. What makes a M car isn't that cosmetic shit. It's the engine the body and all that underneath stuff that was mentioned. Let me guess…..your gonna be super mad when the 2023 has a carbon roof option. Give me a break. People like you are just worried bc a "Regular" 3 can look better than your "Real" M if the owner knows what he's doing. Go take a look at miamig20@ig and tell me it's not worthy of anything your precious M car has. O jtarg_m340 car not bad also. More pics coming soon
Lmfao yeah I don't know anything huh. Haha you sound salty af, there's a reason why people don't really get frozen on the regular 3 series. Why you mad? Cuz you have a regular 3? Lmaoo have a seat. I never said the non m 3 can't look good or is not good, that's just your insecurities coming out 😂 now go try to make yours look better
I'm salty. If I was salty about my "regular 3". I would just jump in my e92. STUPID. I just can't stand when people hate on other cars. You don't hear people talking shit that you driving a m3 that every 19 year old kid got with a burble tune and a wing. Who gives a fuck is the point.
Lol your last post to me says otherwise. Like I said, I never was talking shit bout your car or the regular 3 series. I just said it's annoying how bmw keeps making their regular cars more and more like m cars and kinda blurring the lines (to a certain extent) I get it's marketing to fill the gap in between, but still. This is the fact with every automaker at this point. I'm not hating on the 340, it's a great car with a stout b58. Nor do I care bout my m3 or the fact it's an M. You're just taking my post the wrong way. Lol that's a 335 every 19 year old has with annoying gunshot Burble and wing
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After watching this video, it confirms my concerns over the new 3, especially in M Sport trim. The new front end is way too aggressive !
It's not in harmony with rest of the car's styling. Maybe the designer was trying to make the M Sport front end more aggressive than the M3 ? The front end of my 2022 M340ix is very stylish and not hyper aggressive - well designed, IMO !

The interior dash design changes for 2023 are a step backwards. The lack of any HVAC dedicated buttons will be annoying for anyone driving a MY2023 !!! The very wide glass screen looks incongruous, plopped on top of the dash !
Well said. Find myself in complete agreement.
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Nobody cares man, badges has no impact on your car. Do you like your M2C less because of this. Why did you get the car? to impress your neighbors. Besides an M340i cost about the same as an M2C so it's not like an M2 is even that much more expensive. If you want exclusivity go buy an M1. It seems too many people are concerned that the general public who's already clueless won't be able to differentiate who spent more for their cars between the M performance and the M owners.

We buy the M340i because it fits our needs, nobody buys one of these thinking it's a substitute for a G80. Or with the intent of willfully deceiving his or her neighbor that they have just acquired a so-called "real M car".

The people who bemoan daily about what BMW is doing are only concerned because to them an M car is more about being a status symbol. At end of the day we all know what we bought and are driving. An M car isn't for the elite , Porsche carries that mantle. If your goal is to impress the neighbors buy that because outside of us bimmer fanboys, strangers on the street don't think M cars are that special nowadays.
You don’t get the basics but put your nose in every possible thread.
Yes I got the M2 for the raw feel and because I was totally disappointed in the soulless and numb M340i as mentioned many times…
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When will information regarding the US models come out? Anyone know when they'll be on the US configurators?
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Nobody cares man, badges has no impact on your car. Do you like your M2C less because of this. Why did you get the car? to impress your neighbors. Besides an M340i cost about the same as an M2C so it's not like an M2 is even that much more expensive. If you want exclusivity go buy an M1. It seems too many people are concerned that the general public who's already clueless won't be able to differentiate who spent more for their cars between the M performance and the M owners.

We buy the M340i because it fits our needs, nobody buys one of these thinking it's a substitute for a G80. Or with the intent of willfully deceiving his or her neighbor that they have just acquired a so-called "real M car".

The people who bemoan daily about what BMW is doing are only concerned because to them an M car is more about being a status symbol. At end of the day we all know what we bought and are driving. An M car isn't for the elite , Porsche carries that mantle. If your goal is to impress the neighbors buy that because outside of us bimmer fanboys, strangers on the street don't think M cars are that special nowadays.
You don't get the basics but put your nose in every possible thread.
Yes I got the M2 for the raw feel and because I was totally disappointed in the soulless and numb M340i as mentioned many times…
I don't get the basics right yet I have owned 3 of the classic BMW's something an F series isnt. Your diatribe was about emblems and how some non M cars have more than your so called real M car.
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I don't get the basics right yet I have owned 3 of the classic BMW's something an F series isnt. Your diatribe was about emblems and how some non M cars have more than your so called real M car.
Ah, yes, the F87 is my first BMW…
Are you 11 or something? Or your brain stopped developing at that age?

Welcome to the forum…some 15 years behind me…
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You're a funny guy. You're the one who behaves like the juvenile. For one you're surprised that an M2C is more engaging to drive than an M340i. I mean, that's hilarious. You also find your way in this thread even though you're the one who snuck their nose in since you have no interest in this car. Unless of course you're dense enough to believe that the refreshed version would be more engaging to drive this time.


If driver engagement is the top of one's list. Modern BMW's are out since they all have the crappy steering even your precious F87. I should know since I drove one on track. Anyhow! I am done with the pointless discussion.
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You're a funny guy. You're the one who behaves like the juvenile. For one you're surprised that an M2C is more engaging to drive than an M340i. I mean, that's hilarious. You also find your way in this thread even though you're the one who snuck their nose in since you have no interest in this car. Unless of course you're dense enough to believe that the refreshed version would be more engaging to drive this time.


If driver engagement is the top of one's list. Modern BMW's are out since they all have the crappy steering even your precious F87. I should know since I drove one on track. Anyhow! I am done with the pointless discussion.
Have you ever driven the M2C??
I find the steering better than the e46 M3 that I owned for years.
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You're a funny guy. You're the one who behaves like the juvenile. For one you're surprised that an M2C is more engaging to drive than an M340i. I mean, that's hilarious. You also find your way in this thread even though you're the one who snuck their nose in since you have no interest in this car. Unless of course you're dense enough to believe that the refreshed version would be more engaging to drive this time.


If driver engagement is the top of one's list. Modern BMW's are out since they all have the crappy steering even your precious F87. I should know since I drove one on track. Anyhow! I am done with the pointless discussion.
Have you ever driven the M2C??
I find the steering better than the e46 M3 that I owned for years.
Take a spin in my G20 and honestly tell me it's "soulless"!

No, it's not as raw as my previous F82, but it gets the job done for DD.

Normal people see the roundel and that's enough, they don't pay attention to CF roof or quad pipes.

Wanna be special? Get a bugatti, otherwise STFU, stop vomiting on the G20 section, and go back to the special M area, where I'm sure you'll find plenty of butthurt wannabes!
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