[uuni]

If i would live in Germany i would get the new M3. However in here we pay carbon tax which in M3 doubles the price. Thus, i have to buy EV next.

[SteveinArizona]

Leaving the grill issue aside, the biggest problem I have with the BMW EV models is that they are still 400 volt, not 800 like much of the competition (Porsche, Audi, MB) which means much slower charging time while on a trip.

I know that there are not many of the high power chargers available as of yet but I would not want to spend the money on a luxury car for that reason when they are being built out as I type.

[InsideDK]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

Leaving the grill issue aside, the biggest problem I have with the BMW EV models is that they are still 400 volt, not 800 like much of the competition (Porsche, Audi, MB) which means much slower charging time while on a trip.

I know that there are not many of the high power chargers available as of yet but I would not want to spend the money on a luxury car for that reason when they are being built out as I type.

No issue with the grill if you ask me! It looks perfect with the M Sport package.

Regarding the charging speed, it would be nice if it could beat the e-tron GT. Luckily it has already been spotted in the wild almost reaching the claimed 200 kw. So still ahead of lots of other car manufacture's.

[stein_325i]

The problem with the charging speed is even if it can charge fast, the number of non-Tesla chargers that can provide those speeds and do so reliably seems to be an issue. The infrastructure is still not there yet in my opinion.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

The problem with the charging speed is even if it can charge fast, the number of non-Tesla chargers that can provide those speeds and do so reliably seems to be an issue. The infrastructure is still not there yet in my opinion.

Exactly. They either need to invest in their own chargers or start making deals with Tesla. In that case, it may help everyone if they partner with Elon and build chargers that are compatible with both standards and allow auto billing like Tesla does via WiFi connectivty. I can't imagine a better setup than what Tesla already has today. It's a case of can't beat them so just join them.

Then all BMW, or any other manufacturer needs to do is sell or include one of these https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...waAu01EALw_wcB

[uuni]

At least where i live government is really pushing and big companies are building a lot of chargers in near future.

Superchargers network willxbe obsolete in few years when there x times more other chargers. As of EV market as whole there should just chargers which are not specific to any brand. That way charging capacity would enough.

[stein_325i]

New Photos.

[soheil]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

New Photos.

I love it! There I said it!!! Here's hoping it has at least 300 miles + has some good ADAS tech + priced no more than $50K and BMW offers some massive lease deals like the i3 (I can hope right?)

[uuni]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

New Photos.

Very boring look, not like F36 which is great looking car. M-Sport pictures didn't look any better, maybe even worse. Anybody with photoshopping skills, could you PS better looking wheels on the side profile?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by uuni

Very boring look, not like F36 which is great looking car. M-Sport pictures didn't look any better, maybe even worse. Anybody with photoshopping skills, could you PS better looking wheels on the side profile?

Agree, I think the side is the biggest problem of the 4er and i4 (coupe, cab, gran coupe, etc.). Losing the sharper and harder body-lines as well as the proper hoff kink has softened the look a little too much.

[Nahlem]

Well the side profile of the current G26 compared to the F series 4er has some positives and negatives. But these are my opinions on it and looks are highly subjective so these opinions are my own.

1. Has gotten both softer and sharper at the same time. Witch is weird. If you look at the F series there is a clear V cut going on while on the newer you got both the V cut and a more of a U cut witch causes some weird eye illusions. So here the F series got better side profile. Now the angle on of both pictures are a bit different but i prefer the lights on the new G series then the F series they look a lot more flowing and sharp at the same time.

2. Here is one of the clearest differences between both models, on the F series it is a lot "shorter" with lower overhang over the wheels on the G series it is a lot longer with a more overhang over the front wheels. Witch might cause the splitter to look a lot softer then it should but for me the G series look better in this aspect it gives more coustomizble options in the future.

3. Here the G series in my opinion looks a lot sharper with the same sharp straight downwards look at the wheels but also creating more sharp angles where it goes up and becomes thinner. While on the F series it is pretty much the same from the back to the front in terms of both width and angles other then it goes from wider to a bit thinner in the front. This was one of the more boring looking parts on the F series in my opinion while looking a lot more sharp on the G series.

4. This is where it gets a bit weird on the G series but this is a "i" brand issue more then a design issue i do not like the blue in cut on the car this is a thing they need to stop with even with being able to change to grey color probably as with the Ix3 where you can remove all blue accents but the blue door cut out so weird i do not like that at all. Here in my opinion the F series wins in terms of looks the smaller side scoop is better.

5. Here the upper shoulder line is a lot sharper on the F series then the G series, the F series creates a very nice line that your eyes gets imidietly drawn to when looking at the side while on G series you also have that line but it is more toned down because they added more lines that draws your look to the side other then the upper shoulder line. But here we also se something that doesn't exist on the F series in the same way, it is the lower shoulder line number 6. that is a rather new line added to the car i am not sure that is needed because even lower down you get another line that looks good on the G series and the F series just above the lower parts of the door. Both looks good although a lot "sharper" on the F series, but the G series is holding its own here in my opinion.

7. Ahhh the kink so much discussions regarding this one, Where on the F series i can clearly se the kink being a but of a more u shaped depending if you are looking at the chrome part or window part of the kink. It looks a lot more U formed. While on the G series it is very sharp we can se they went with the V shape a lot more then on the F series witch makes that part look very aggressive from the side and here the G series looks better in my opinion the the F series while the F series creates a bit of a "classical" look the G creates a "new" sharper look.

8. Here we se the same V shape again, on the F series rear light meeting the chassi it is more u shaped reminding us of the kink while on the G series we go again modern more sharp and narrower look. That i in my opinion prefer looks more aggressive and sharp.

9. The Spoiler on the new G series wins here also it is a lot more aggressive creating a look where you might be happy without adding a extra smaller spoiler this was what i found a bit disappointing in the F series it was a very soft back end while they fixed that on the G series creating a more sharper up in the air look. On my forthcoming i4 i will probably not need to add a carbon fiber spoiler because the car from the get go look sharp in the back.

10. Here again we se that V shape coming in to play on the G series creating a aggressive sharp look not so soft. Making it looks fast while standing still and this i do indeed like more on the G series then the F series. On the F series we se a more rounded of shaping flowing in to the back more cohesive while on G series says "yeah lets go crazy instead"

11. Also here the same V shape starts showing it self a straight line underneath then cuts of up in to the rear diffuser creating this instant sharp fast look that i my self prefer over the rounded shape. I prefer this look a lot more my self.

12. This middle part is not as prevalent in the G series as it is on the F series the big rounded bumper look disappears on the G series creating a more agile sharper look in a lot of ways while toning down other parts.

This are some of the more noteworthy parts in the side profile at least for me overall the F & G series have both somethings going for them while other parts not so much. But overall the G series package as of now it is more attractive to me then the F series. But as previously stated looks are highly subjective some likes the G and other likes the F series more.

[InsideDK]

Some family pictures

[uuni]

That is one ugly family

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Exactly. They either need to invest in their own chargers or start making deals with Tesla. In that case, it may help everyone if they partner with Elon and build chargers that are compatible with both standards and allow auto billing like Tesla does via WiFi connectivty. I can't imagine a better setup than what Tesla already has today. It's a case of can't beat them so just join them.

Then all BMW, or any other manufacturer needs to do is sell or include one of these https://ev-lectron.com/products/lect...waAu01EALw_wcB

Why would Tesla partner with BMW or any other car maker? Tesla's charging system is its biggest advantage in the marketplace; why would it give that up?

[uuni]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

Why would Tesla partner with BMW or any other car maker? Tesla's charging system is its biggest advantage in the marketplace; why would it give that up?

They wont (and shouldnt), only if regulators will make them. Especially in EU that could happen.

As general comment having "private" charger will result more land usage (i.e 7 different charging fields with 10 chargers per supplier, when you could just few gas pumps for every car) limit the charging possibilities.

In order to have good infastructure for EV's we should avoid brand specific chargers.

[InsideDK]

First picture with the door open

[n55f15]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CO-zu35n...=1a8gww6edeu01

[brainDotExe]

New charging power peak:

[eddiehaug]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

New Photos.

Wasn't this car supposed to be a Grand Coupé, with the tailgate opening like in the Model S? At least that's what the picture at the gas station shows. In this picture, however, it looks like a regular sedan. Will there be 2 versions or what?

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by eddiehaug

Wasn't this car supposed to be a Grand Coupé, with the tailgate opening like in the Model S? At least that's what the picture at the gas station shows. In this picture, however, it looks like a regular sedan. Will there be 2 versions or what?

It will have a similar tailgate to the outgoing F36 4GC.

[eddiehaug]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

It will have a similar tailgate to the outgoing F36 4GC.

Yes, that's the pic I was referring to. But this pic seems to suggest otherwise, doesn't it?

[InsideDK]

Originally Posted by eddiehaug

Yes, that's the pic I was referring to. But this pic seems to suggest otherwise, doesn't it?

If you compare with the old 4 series, it is designed pretty much the same way. You open up all the glass.

Originally Posted by brainDotExe

New charging power peak:

Great find! Happy to see this high charging speed.