Bimmerpost
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums Off-Topic Discussions Board Politics/Religion The Impeachment Thread

View Poll Results: Will Donald Trump be Impeached or will this blowback on Biden
Orange Trump bad. Trump gone. 61 31.28%
Trump Trump-umphant. 66 33.85%
Inclusive 14 7.18%
Biden C4'd to oblivion. 57 29.23%
Biden grows in strength and gets shot in the arm for nomination. 8 4.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 195. You may not vote on this poll

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-11-2019, 09:33 AM   #2025
adc100
Major
1004
Rep
1,273
Posts

Drives: 2018 Forester XT
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Elizabethtown PA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dagamus_NM View Post
Whoa, I agree with everything you just said. Cheers to ADC.
I have this nasty habit of thinking for myself. Just bc I am a conservative I don't need to be as ignorant as senator Infofe who brought in to the Senate chamber a fcking snowball to make the point against GW. what a moron.

And as far as the boomers benefiting at the expense of the rest....wa wa wa News flash...since the beginning of time humans have done what is best for them and their families.
Appreciate 3
      11-11-2019, 09:42 AM   #2026
jmg
Major General
jmg's Avatar
United_States
7399
Rep
8,727
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 CS, I01 i3 REx LCI
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanConquest View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg View Post
I agree, however there is still due process and that goes both ways. The impeachment inquiry is that process and they gathered a satisfactory amount of information to start the hearing. It seems that you are dismissing the legitimacy of the inquiry due to the fact that the Mueller Report was indeterminate of guilt.
I believe your confuse me with another member, i want the investigation to occur so more information of the dnc meddling in Ukraine can be dug up.

As for Trump, the simple fact that Zal clearly stated he never felt pressured by Trump and the fact Rudy and Trump was requesting assistance from.Ukraine prior to Biden announcing his presidential run sort of deflates the entire narrative.
I think I am confusing you for another member.

Who didn't know that Biden was going to run before he announced it? Regardless, dirt on Biden weakens the DNC so politically speaking, Trump would gain from the statement from the Ukraine in the upcoming election. I don't think the election connection is a necessary component for quid pro quo.
__________________
2018 F80 ///M3 CS - Lime Rock Grey Metallic
2019 I01 i3 BEV - Giga World
Previous: F80 M3 | I01 i3 Rex LCI | I01 i3 REx | F30 340i M Sport ZTR | F30 328i Sport | Audi B7 S4 25Quattro #33 of 250 | E21 320i
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 09:52 AM   #2027
jmg
Major General
jmg's Avatar
United_States
7399
Rep
8,727
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 CS, I01 i3 REx LCI
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanConquest View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by SakhirM4 View Post
As smart as you are, I am sure that you realize that 99% of the "boomers" personally had very little to do with what you have listed.
Well that not accurate nearly 30% of boomer females participated in aborting their children

10+% was involved in government and unrealistic promises to themselves

About the samw amount was in large corporation that made the same type of unpaid promises

And about 30% was involved in electing the idiots that pass the laws, agreements, and policy mention above.

Don't get me wrong I don't harbor hatred towards the boomer and I understand their action but you got to point out when someone f up so we can learn from it and try to fix it.
FYI Trump is a boomer, he's also corporate and he also is in government. You've convinced me. It's the boomer's fault!
__________________
2018 F80 ///M3 CS - Lime Rock Grey Metallic
2019 I01 i3 BEV - Giga World
Previous: F80 M3 | I01 i3 Rex LCI | I01 i3 REx | F30 340i M Sport ZTR | F30 328i Sport | Audi B7 S4 25Quattro #33 of 250 | E21 320i
Appreciate 1
      11-11-2019, 09:58 AM   #2028
Torgus
Slow.
Torgus's Avatar
United_States
2021
Rep
5,545
Posts

Drives: Single Turbo N54 on Meth!
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2007 BMW E92  [5.00]
2007 BMW E90  [0.00]
2006 BMW E91  [0.00]
Ok, Boomer. The dumbest phrase ever.
Appreciate 1
SakhirM49602.50

      11-11-2019, 10:14 AM   #2029
NormanConquest
Colonel
1508
Rep
2,339
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Earth

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg View Post
FYI Trump is a boomer, he's also corporate and he also is in government. You've convinced me. It's the boomer's fault!
Corporation are public entity
His business are private entities.
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 10:19 AM   #2030
Captain Blood
Pirate and thief, avast
Captain Blood's Avatar
United_States
8149
Rep
10,423
Posts

Drives: 135i DCT
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Tortuga

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 135  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanConquest View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg View Post
FYI Trump is a boomer, he's also corporate and he also is in government. You've convinced me. It's the boomer's fault!
Corporation are public entity
His business are private entities.
And according to stormy, his privates are a small pubic entity.
.
.
Attached Images
 
__________________
taking it to 7000.
Appreciate 1
jmg7399.00

      11-11-2019, 10:22 AM   #2031
KingOfJericho
Major General
KingOfJericho's Avatar
United_States
1271
Rep
6,529
Posts

Drives: Yes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 135i Coupe  [2.63]
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanConquest View Post
Corporation are public entity
His business are private entities.
Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts was public and founded in 1995 by Donald Trump. It filed for bankruptcy in 2004, 2009 and 2014.
__________________
The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost.

2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi | 2010 S4 Sold | 2010 BMW 135i Retired | 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
Appreciate 1
jmg7399.00

      11-11-2019, 10:26 AM   #2032
Dagamus_NM
Second Lieutenant
246
Rep
244
Posts

Drives: '17 x1, '10 m3, '91 332iC
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Albuquerque NM

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torgus View Post
Ok, Boomer. The dumbest phrase ever.
Uh huh. Just look at the emotional response it has triggered in the past few pages.
Appreciate 1
BS_CS205.50

      11-11-2019, 10:27 AM   #2033
NormanConquest
Colonel
1508
Rep
2,339
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Earth

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfJericho View Post
Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts was public and founded in 1995 by Donald Trump. It filed for bankruptcy in 2004, 2009 and 2014.
It a casino in the socialist state of new jersey of course that branch of his business is public but his core business is private.
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 10:37 AM   #2034
KingOfJericho
Major General
KingOfJericho's Avatar
United_States
1271
Rep
6,529
Posts

Drives: Yes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 135i Coupe  [2.63]
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanConquest View Post
It a casino in the socialist state of new jersey of course that branch of his business is public but his core business is private.
Not just one casino. There were properties in Indiana and California as well.
__________________
The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost.

2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi | 2010 S4 Sold | 2010 BMW 135i Retired | 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
Appreciate 1
jmg7399.00

      11-11-2019, 12:16 PM   #2035
Eriphill
Captain
1149
Rep
911
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Down by the sea

iTrader: (0)

"Alan Dershowitz: Is there any possibility there was an impeachable offense? The answer is no. Take the worst, worst, worst case scenario, the president abused his foreign policy power to gain political advantage. How many presidents have done that over time? Itís not among the listed impeachable offenses. Itís not a crime. Itís not any kind of a crime. The framers had a debate on this and they rejected the concept of maladministration as a ground for impeachment. You need to show bribery, treason or high crimes and misdemeanors. And even in the worst case scenario by phone call Ė Itís just not thereÖ Look, Iím a liberal Democrat I think the worst thing Democrats can do is a vote on impeachment. He wins in the Senate. And then he uses that to win reelection.You canít just make it up. To have a crime you have to have something in the statute book that existed before the actions took place and that was clear and unequivocal. Itís just not there"
Appreciate 3
Torgus2020.50

      11-11-2019, 12:44 PM   #2036
KingOfJericho
Major General
KingOfJericho's Avatar
United_States
1271
Rep
6,529
Posts

Drives: Yes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 135i Coupe  [2.63]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eriphill View Post
"Alan Dershowitz: Is there any possibility there was an impeachable offense? The answer is no. Take the worst, worst, worst case scenario, the president abused his foreign policy power to gain political advantage. How many presidents have done that over time? Itís not among the listed impeachable offenses. Itís not a crime. Itís not any kind of a crime. The framers had a debate on this and they rejected the concept of maladministration as a ground for impeachment. You need to show bribery, treason or high crimes and misdemeanors. And even in the worst case scenario by phone call Ė Itís just not thereÖ Look, Iím a liberal Democrat I think the worst thing Democrats can do is a vote on impeachment. He wins in the Senate. And then he uses that to win reelection.You canít just make it up. To have a crime you have to have something in the statute book that existed before the actions took place and that was clear and unequivocal. Itís just not there"
If the whistleblower's attorney was not credible because you thought him liking Disney videos was damning (it was fake, btw), how are you using an Alan Dershowitz quote with a straight face?
__________________
The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost.

2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi | 2010 S4 Sold | 2010 BMW 135i Retired | 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
Appreciate 1
      11-11-2019, 12:54 PM   #2037
Captain Blood
Pirate and thief, avast
Captain Blood's Avatar
United_States
8149
Rep
10,423
Posts

Drives: 135i DCT
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Tortuga

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 135  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eriphill View Post
"Alan Dershowitz: Is there any possibility there was an impeachable offense? The answer is no. Take the worst, worst, worst case scenario, the president abused his foreign policy power to gain political advantage. How many presidents have done that over time? It’s not among the listed impeachable offenses. It’s not a crime. It’s not any kind of a crime. The framers had a debate on this and they rejected the concept of maladministration as a ground for impeachment. You need to show bribery, treason or high crimes and misdemeanors. And even in the worst case scenario by phone call – It’s just not there… Look, I’m a liberal Democrat I think the worst thing Democrats can do is a vote on impeachment. He wins in the Senate. And then he uses that to win reelection.You can’t just make it up. To have a crime you have to have something in the statute book that existed before the actions took place and that was clear and unequivocal. It’s just not there"
Extortion is a felony in all states. Blackmail is a form of extortion in which the threat is to expose embarrassing and damaging information to family, friends, or the public. ... If any method of interstate commerce is used in the extortion, it can be a federal crime.
FindLaw › criminal › extortion
__________________
taking it to 7000.
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 12:59 PM   #2038
Captain Blood
Pirate and thief, avast
Captain Blood's Avatar
United_States
8149
Rep
10,423
Posts

Drives: 135i DCT
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Tortuga

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2012 135  [5.00]
^ The crime of extortion traditionally covered only actions by public or government officials, though today the crime applies to actions by private citizens as well. (In some states, extortion applies to acts by public officials, while blackmail applies to acts by private citizens, even though the same type of activities are involved.) Extortion occurs when someone attempts to obtain money or property by threatening to commit violence, accuse the victim of a crime, or reveal private or damaging information about the victim.

Threats. Extortion is based upon some type of threat. The person making the threat must state an intention to commit an injury or harmful action against the victim. For example, under California's law, a person can commit extortion by threatening to injure the victim or another person, accuse the victim of a crime or of some other disgraceful conduct, expose a secret, or report a person to immigration. (Cal. Pen. Code, § 519.) A person can make the threat verbally, in writing, or even through non-verbal gestures or other communications. In some states, merely making a threat is enough to qualify as a crime.
Intent. A person commits extortion when making a threat with the specific intention of forcing someone else to provide money, property, or something of value. However, intent is not based on the defendant's statements alone, but rather upon the circumstances and facts surrounding the threat. In other words, a prosecutor can prove the accused intended to deprive the victim of property without having to actually show what was going on in the defendant's head.
Fear. When someone makes a threat or attempts extortion, the threat itself must be able to cause fear in the victim. The fear can be based on almost anything, such as the fear of violence, economic loss, social stigma, deportation, or anything else that might cause the victim to act or hand over property. However, it isn't necessary that the victim actually experiences fear, but only that the accused intended to cause fear. Also, a person who experiences fear doesn't necessarily make the accused guilty of extortion, as the accused must have intended to cause the fear in an attempt to gain property.
Property. The type of property someone tries to obtain when using extortion encompasses almost anything that has value. However, the property doesn't need to be actual physical property, and can be property that does not have a dollar value. It is also not necessary for the accused to actually deprive the victim of property, as attempting to extort property is also a crime. Courts have held that the property involved in extortion can include such property as cash, tangible goods, liquor licenses, debts, and even agreements not to compete in business. Sexual acts are also typically covered, though some states have specific laws that govern sexual extortion.
Punishment

Though states provide a wide range of penalties for extortion, the crime is most often punished as a felony offense.
__________________
taking it to 7000.
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 01:04 PM   #2039
jmg
Major General
jmg's Avatar
United_States
7399
Rep
8,727
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 CS, I01 i3 REx LCI
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanConquest View Post
Corporation are public entity
His business are private entities.
And I sell my teeth to the tooth fairy. Got any more fairy tales?
__________________
2018 F80 ///M3 CS - Lime Rock Grey Metallic
2019 I01 i3 BEV - Giga World
Previous: F80 M3 | I01 i3 Rex LCI | I01 i3 REx | F30 340i M Sport ZTR | F30 328i Sport | Audi B7 S4 25Quattro #33 of 250 | E21 320i
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 01:05 PM   #2040
Eriphill
Captain
1149
Rep
911
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Down by the sea

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfJericho View Post
If the whistleblower's attorney was not credible because you thought him liking Disney videos was damning (it was fake, btw), how are you using an Alan Dershowitz quote with a straight face?
Haha I wouldn't expect you to know the difference.
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 01:06 PM   #2041
Eriphill
Captain
1149
Rep
911
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Down by the sea

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blood View Post
Extortion is a felony in all states. Blackmail is a form of extortion in which the threat is to expose embarrassing and damaging information to family, friends, or the public. ... If any method of interstate commerce is used in the extortion, it can be a federal crime.
FindLaw õ criminal õ extortion
Good job you were able to Google a definition. Bravo boomer! Too bad it is completely unrelated to the Ukraine hoax
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 01:09 PM   #2042
jmg
Major General
jmg's Avatar
United_States
7399
Rep
8,727
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 CS, I01 i3 REx LCI
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by NormanConquest View Post
It a casino in the socialist state of new jersey of course that branch of his business is public but his core business is private.
You're backpedaling so fast you must be going back in time. Why are you making up rules? Corporations have to be public, now corporations in New Jersey don't count... what's next?
__________________
2018 F80 ///M3 CS - Lime Rock Grey Metallic
2019 I01 i3 BEV - Giga World
Previous: F80 M3 | I01 i3 Rex LCI | I01 i3 REx | F30 340i M Sport ZTR | F30 328i Sport | Audi B7 S4 25Quattro #33 of 250 | E21 320i
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 01:12 PM   #2043
jmg
Major General
jmg's Avatar
United_States
7399
Rep
8,727
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 CS, I01 i3 REx LCI
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eriphill View Post
Good job you were able to Google a definition. Bravo boomer! Too bad it is completely unrelated to the Ukraine hoax
At least he looks up the definition instead of just making things up to fit his narrative. Kind of like how you have redefined hoax to shoehorn it to fit a legitimate inquiry that legally went through all the proper channels and functions within the bounds and limitations of our bureaucracy. They collected testimonies, took it to a vote and now the hearings are public. That's due process. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a hoax.
__________________
2018 F80 ///M3 CS - Lime Rock Grey Metallic
2019 I01 i3 BEV - Giga World
Previous: F80 M3 | I01 i3 Rex LCI | I01 i3 REx | F30 340i M Sport ZTR | F30 328i Sport | Audi B7 S4 25Quattro #33 of 250 | E21 320i
Appreciate 1
      11-11-2019, 01:13 PM   #2044
SakhirM4
Major General
SakhirM4's Avatar
United_States
9603
Rep
8,530
Posts

Drives: '15 SO M4/'20 Z4 M40i (coming)
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2020 BMW Z4 M40i  [0.00]
2015 BMW M4  [4.38]
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg View Post
You're backpedaling so fast you must be going back in time. Why are you making up rules? Corporations have to be public, now corporations in New Jersey don't count... what's next?
The answer is no; some corporations are traded only privately and not on the stock market. Many public companies start as private businesses, some even as sole proprietorships. Partnerships and corporations can also be privately held, although private corporations are very different than publicly traded corporations.

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/publ...ion-75652.html
__________________
Tejas Chapter, BMW CCA, mem #23915, President 27 years, www.tejaschapter.org
2015 ///M4, SO/full black, 6MT, HK, light 19"
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 01:15 PM   #2045
jmg
Major General
jmg's Avatar
United_States
7399
Rep
8,727
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 CS, I01 i3 REx LCI
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eriphill View Post
"Alan Dershowitz: Is there any possibility there was an impeachable offense? The answer is no. Take the worst, worst, worst case scenario, the president abused his foreign policy power to gain political advantage. How many presidents have done that over time? Itís not among the listed impeachable offenses. Itís not a crime. Itís not any kind of a crime. The framers had a debate on this and they rejected the concept of maladministration as a ground for impeachment. You need to show bribery, treason or high crimes and misdemeanors. And even in the worst case scenario by phone call Ė Itís just not thereÖ Look, Iím a liberal Democrat I think the worst thing Democrats can do is a vote on impeachment. He wins in the Senate. And then he uses that to win reelection.You canít just make it up. To have a crime you have to have something in the statute book that existed before the actions took place and that was clear and unequivocal. Itís just not there"
Alan Dershowitz was on the OJ defense team, so he must be right cause OJ didn't do that shit!
__________________
2018 F80 ///M3 CS - Lime Rock Grey Metallic
2019 I01 i3 BEV - Giga World
Previous: F80 M3 | I01 i3 Rex LCI | I01 i3 REx | F30 340i M Sport ZTR | F30 328i Sport | Audi B7 S4 25Quattro #33 of 250 | E21 320i
Appreciate 0
      11-11-2019, 01:16 PM   #2046
NormanConquest
Colonel
1508
Rep
2,339
Posts

Drives: 340i
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Earth

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmg View Post
You're backpedaling so fast you must be going back in time. Why are you making up rules? Corporations have to be public, now corporations in New Jersey don't count... what's next?
I was refering to Trump core business which is a private entity

Also in NJ all casino venture are joint with the state which requires them to be public.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:55 AM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST