[ed10255]

I have a 440i GC lease that is finishing in September 2021, but I wanted to custom order a M340i xDrive before 2021 production ends. I believe production ends in June 2021 for the 2021 G20s?

Just would like some info on how long it takes from ordering to delivery, and if there is anyway I can pull forward on the lease without negative equity or if there is anyone that has experienced something similar?

Thanks!!

[hans007]

I ordered my m340i first week of dec 2019 and got it on the last day of february. Though mine had a delay because it was tanzanite blue, and was shipped from germany to los angeles. I'd guess that is about as long as it could really take, though if your car gets built in the north american plant it could be pretty short from what I've heard.

[wtwo3]

I think a good range is anywhere between 4-8 weeks from date of order to delivery. Mine took roughly 6 weeks.

I'm not sure what BMW's current pull ahead is, so that would be a good question to ask your dealer.

[ArchJR]

Lease pull ahead is shrouded in secrecy and clouded with misconception. Nothing appears on the BMW sites. Different dealers advertise different offers in different regions and for different models. My take: There may be periodic incentives to trade people into excess inventory or slow sellers. But when a dealer offers to waive remaining payments, he is more likely rolling those payments into your new lease and reducing discounts elsewhere to compensate. It is a great way to prey on our lust for new cars and propensity to make impulse decisions. (Not meant as a criticism. I am just as guilty and there is nothing wrong with paying for what one desires.)

I also learned once, several BMWs ago when there was an actual lease pull-ahead program, that dealer participation required buying the car turned in. In my case it was a 328i that had low mileage and a desirable option combination and I was trading for an heavily optioned (not popular) 528i that had been on the lot for a long time. The dealer said he would not have done it for a car he could not quickly flip at a profit. Maybe that was just a sales tactic, but the deal was stellar so I did not care.

In short, I would not expect to stack the 10%+ discount + rebates that many Bimmerpost members achieve with waived payments.

My car took about 6 weeks from start of production in Mexico to arrival at the dealer, which was quick considering Christmas and New Years fell in the middle of that timespan.

[psaav]

I ordered my '21 on November 14th and just took delivery on January 9th. The longest parts of the whole process were: waiting for production to actually begin after the order was officially in, and: once built, the trip from the factory to the port in Veracruz. The production only took 3, maybe 4 days. The time on the boat was 1.5 days from Veracruz to Brunswick GA. It sat at the VDC in Brunswick for 3, maybe 4 days, then on the truck to the dealer. So total time from when I negotiated, placed order at the dealer to actually sitting in the car was 8 weeks.

[ed10255]

Originally Posted by ArchJR

Lease pull ahead is shrouded in secrecy and clouded with misconception. Nothing appears on the BMW sites. Different dealers advertise different offers in different regions and for different models. My take: There may be periodic incentives to trade people into excess inventory or slow sellers. But when a dealer offers to waive remaining payments, he is more likely rolling those payments into your new lease and reducing discounts elsewhere to compensate. It is a great way to prey on our lust for new cars and propensity to make impulse decisions. (Not meant as a criticism. I am just as guilty and there is nothing wrong with paying for what one desires.)

I also learned once, several BMWs ago when there was an actual lease pull-ahead program, that dealer participation required buying the car turned in. In my case it was a 328i that had low mileage and a desirable option combination and I was trading for an heavily optioned (not popular) 528i that had been on the lot for a long time. The dealer said he would not have done it for a car he could not quickly flip at a profit. Maybe that was just a sales tactic, but the deal was stellar so I did not care.

In short, I would not expect to stack the 10%+ discount + rebates that many Bimmerpost members achieve with waived payments.

My car took about 6 weeks from start of production in Mexico to arrival at the dealer, which was quick considering Christmas and New Years fell in the middle of that timespan.

I guess in my case, it would be better to sit tight and perhaps get something off the lot? Don't think I can order a 2021 M340i in September. A lot of the M340i's in dealer inventory in my area are not spec'd in the way I'd want them .

I'm not really thrilled about rolling my remaining lease payments into the cost of the new car. Perhaps I should reach out to some dealers to get some info?

[Montaver]

Why so much focus on a 2021? If the 2022 incorporates the LCI refresh it could have more standard equipment, leather color options, potentially the M seat option that's available on European m340s etc. Not sure if the LCI is due for 22 but even if it isn't your not going to miss anything, the main change for 21 was the 48V hybrid and that isn't going away.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by Montaver

Why so much focus on a 2021? If the 2022 incorporates the LCI refresh it could have more standard equipment, leather color options, potentially the M seat option that's available on European m340s etc. Not sure if the LCI is due for 22 but even if it isn't your not going to miss anything, the main change for 21 was the 48V hybrid and that isn't going away.

Agreed. Why not just get a 2022 model? The LCI is not expected until the 2023 model year.

[ed10255]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Agreed. Why not just get a 2022 model? The LCI is not expected until the 2023 model year.

I guess that could make sense...maybe just extend my lease for 6 months and then get a 2022? That could work as well.

[DAC17]

The "next model" is always going to be better. Only each individual can decide what's "good enough". 98% of the time, the car will always be better than the driver!

[ArchJR]

Originally Posted by ed10255

I guess in my case, it would be better to sit tight and perhaps get something off the lot? Don't think I can order a 2021 M340i in September. A lot of the M340i's in dealer inventory in my area are not spec'd in the way I'd want them .

I'm not really thrilled about rolling my remaining lease payments into the cost of the new car. Perhaps I should reach out to some dealers to get some info?

Typically no down time between production and ordering periods between model years, barring significant retooling. You will be assigned whichever model year is current at the time of production. I would not fret over it and just order 6 - 8 weeks ahead of your lease end.

I am pessimistic that dealers will be helpful. When I inquired about lead time up to my car's March '21 expiration, every CA told me to order in October or November because of factory shutdowns for the new year, backlogs, etc. One CA in Tampa told me there was a long shutdown in Germany for Christmas, and was flummoxed when I told him the 330i is made in Mexico!

I reluctantly believed them and ordered in early December. They were wrong and the car arrived quickly, so now I am going to pick up the car today and waste the last month on my current lease. They wanted to make sales as quickly as possible and did not care about my timeline. Hopefully you find a dealer that proves me wrong. I find the knowledge shared on Bimmerpost more reliable than the words of any dealer.

[ed10255]

Originally Posted by ArchJR

Typically no down time between production and ordering periods between model years, barring significant retooling. You will be assigned whichever model year is current at the time of production. I would not fret over it and just order 6 - 8 weeks ahead of your lease end.

I am pessimistic that dealers will be helpful. When I inquired about lead time up to my car's March '21 expiration, every CA told me to order in October or November because of factory shutdowns for the new year, backlogs, etc. One CA in Tampa told me there was a long shutdown in Germany for Christmas, and was flummoxed when I told him the 330i is made in Mexico!

I reluctantly believed them and ordered in early December. They were wrong and the car arrived quickly, so now I am going to pick up the car today and waste the last month on my current lease. They wanted to make sales as quickly as possible and did not care about my timeline. Hopefully you find a dealer that proves me wrong. I find the knowledge shared on Bimmerpost more reliable than the words of any dealer.

There is no downtime, but does that affect the incentives/discount I will be getting on 2021 vs 2022 car? Obviously would like to pay less for a custom order...

[ArchJR]

Originally Posted by ed10255

There is no downtime, but does that affect the incentives/discount I will be getting on 2021 vs 2022 car? Obviously would like to pay less for a custom order...

I have not seen big incentives on outgoing model year cars until October, ramping up until they're all sold (with diminishing returns since the desirably optioned models disappear). And those incentives are typically on dealer inventory. I don't see a realistic strategy of ordering a custom build at the end of the model year with a big discount. And if it's only $500 or $1,000 better I'd rather have a '22.

[josehb]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I think a good range is anywhere between 4-8 weeks from date of order to delivery. Mine took roughly 6 weeks.

I'm not sure what BMW's current pull ahead is, so that would be a good question to ask your dealer.

6 weeks!! my took 13 weeks, order Oct 7, 2020 and just got it last week Jan 15,2021. I shopped for a Macan and AMG C43 before deciding on the M340xi all said 3 months minimum.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by josehb

6 weeks!! my took 13 weeks, order Oct 7, 2020 and just got it last week Jan 15,2021. I shopped for a Macan and AMG C43 before deciding on the M340xi all said 3 months minimum.

I guess sign of the times as well. And if your dealer has an allocation ready. I got pretty lucky in that the dealership was able to get me an allocation immediately, and I hit a sweet spot in the production cycle at the plant.

[josehb]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I guess sign of the times as well. And if your dealer has an allocation ready. I got pretty lucky in that the dealership was able to get me an allocation immediately, and I hit a sweet spot in the production cycle at the plant.

That sounds better, you were lucky to get a dealer allocation vehicle.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by josehb

That sounds better, you were lucky to get a dealer allocation vehicle.

Granted, I made them trade with another dealer for an allocation. I'm not sure what's possible currently, but if I waited around for them to get an allocation it may very well have taken longer.

[youngsandwich]

You all have me optimistic on how soon I'll get my car...dealer has stuck to his 3 month estimate (ordered on NYE). I'm about 2.5hrs from Munich so transport is not much of an issue. Thing is here you don't get order tracking like the US so I just gotta hope I get a call early.

[psaav]

Originally Posted by youngsandwich

You all have me optimistic on how soon I'll get my car...dealer has stuck to his 3 month estimate (ordered on NYE). I'm about 2.5hrs from Munich so transport is not much of an issue. Thing is here you don't get order tracking like the US so I just gotta hope I get a call early.

Not sure if there is such a thing in the EU, but you can always blow up the Genius line and see how that works.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by ed10255

I guess that could make sense...maybe just extend my lease for 6 months and then get a 2022? That could work as well.

The 2022 will go into production in july... if you timed it out and got one of the last June production slots you would probably get delivery in aug a some point. But that would be complex, as allocations dwindle.

There have not been many, if any, official pull ahead programs lately (those are when bmwna eats the cost of the pull ahead) they used to be much more common. As noted above anything you see your dealer advertising is mostly them working to have you roll over the equity but hide it deep in the paperwork. Those are for the pigeons who don't know the numbers.

However as noted, depending on your urgency the smart move might be be to wait till 2022 model year. Order in September or October for a November or December delivery. Then take the incentives/lease rates at delivery. They are usually best for holiday period. Bmw will extend your current lease for up to 6 months. Extending is better than ending early because it is prorated so you don't pay for any more than the additional days you have your car.

[born_on_halloween]

93 days and counting, probably will be here by the end of this month...

Originally Posted by hans007

I ordered my m340i first week of dec 2019 and got it on the last day of february. Though mine had a delay because it was tanzanite blue, and was shipped from germany to los angeles. I'd guess that is about as long as it could really take, though if your car gets built in the north american plant it could be pretty short from what I've heard.

ya looks like, mine is hand-built all the way through wth

hope the engineers signed the engine (for the added resale value lol)

[TruthOne]

6 weeks for mine, sat at the port for 2 weeks while they put on performance parts.