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I have the standard suspension and don't know what stiffness they're talking about. I would imagine the the adaptive suspension they tested is even more compliant. C+D is garbage.
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Just because kia stole german sell-outs engineers and hudai paid for these dumb comparos doesn't make those 2 cars on the same list. what's next? velociter vs 911? and kia will win 'cause it's 1/3 the price? The only car company that could build up to MB/BMW/Audi/Porsche level is Lexus and maybe partially Infiniti. But Toyota makes amazing cars not like kia/huidai with their "me-too" cars to compete and undercut Camry/Civic/Accord/Corolla by 1-2K Toyota make the best "real" SUVs in the world, sorry break-everyday Land Rover, it's true. Toyota makes amazing luxury cars and SUVs and could be elevated to other luxury brands with their Lexus line. kia/huidai is not gonna get there, ever, not with their stupid Bentley wanna be logos or cute Genesis names. Again, the only person who will buy a Kia over BMW is a person who wants to save money and pretend like it's almost as good. Those are who these type of reviews are catering to. Reminds me of a guy wearing Invicta arguing with Submariner owner. Oh your Sub is only 300m WR well my Invicta has 1000m water resistance...Who cares, you just chuckle and walk away.
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For me yes, but I have already spoken with my dollars. Ask the general public why Genesis is a slow seller. I guess the general populace are not swayed by their so called best in class warranty. Perhaps it takes more than that to sell cars in today's market.
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No it isn't.
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Comparing a G70 to a 3 series makes complete sense. Comparing a Hyundai Veloster to a 911 doesn't make any sense. You have a skewed sense of how good BMWs are if you think a 3 series is as good as or nicer than a 911. Because the G70 is surely nicer than a Veloster. |
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Shows you both how other manufacturers have caught up (and in many cases surpassed) and how BMW has rested on its laurels.
They are trading on their old marketing still. The general public are slow to catch on.
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After reading all of these comments you guys make it sound like Hyundai slept with your wife!
Its a car brand, no need to get all hyped up and upset, enjoy what you have, not everyone has the opportunity to enjoy these great cars at all in their lives.
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That's right baby, this is BMW forum not Edmunds Car Talk
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Impressive.
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Your post has perfectly captured everything wrong with badge snobbery! You're saying a Veloster vs. 911 comparison is like this Hyundai vs. 3er? Well you're wrong. The G70 is in a similar class of car and has every right to be compared.
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Kia will never be a BMW no matter how much money they spend with every automotive publication. Same for Invicta vs Rolex. Where I disagree with you is that Kia's size, amount of doors and engine displacement don't place it in the same class with BMW.
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The commentary from the review about the busy suspension and iDrive7 being difficult told me the reviewer was lacking seat time to fully understand the car... Probably had the suspension set aggressive and the iDrive has a learning curve that requires time to understand. I guarantee the same reviewer would be whistling a different tune if they had to live with the M340 for a month of commutes.
Important note to anyone researching buying between the two cars: The price discrepancy is completely overstated when you start optioning the two cars out and researching the market. For starters, some of the extras in the review place the M340i beyond what the G70 offers. So cancel those options to make it an apples-to-apples comparison. The M340i comes standard with a sports package and lots of other equipment for a base $54K. On the other hand, you need to take a base G70 and add the $5,600 sport package like they did in the review to make the cars anywhere near comparable. Now you need to take the base M340i and add premium package, driving assistance, 19" performance wheels, premium leather/ambient lighting, dynamic suspension, and park distance to make it a $51,245 vs $60,750 apples to apples comparison. Now head over to truecar and do market research on what sort of deal you can expect to get. There's less margin in the G70... so with good negotiating skills, expect to pay 49.5K for the aforementioned G70 and expect to pay $55.5K for the M340i. So the price discrepancy on average is $6K for a clearly superior car. It's not "a new Nissan Versa more" as the article erroneously suggests. This often mentioned price discrepancy advantage is a load of crap peddled by Genesis apologists who won't accept that their car, based on its own merits, cannot stand up to BMW's latest engineering effort. Knowledge is power, so do your research and be an informed consumer. Feel free to copy/paste this in the car and driver comments section if you have a posting account there. Last edited by Giggler; 10-24-2019 at 08:33 PM.. |
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