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The tool lid thing should have a picture of Doug Demuro on it instead of the wrench, cuz he's to total tool....
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02-26-2019, 02:51 PM | #49 | |
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The ship has likely sailed for the regular 3 series based on this self defeating loop, but will hopefully live on in the M cars. The manual sales on the F80 were actually closer to 30% in North America and I think the M2 (original) was close to 50%. Interesting article on Jalopnik in regards to wagons on the same topic, basically when a few new wagons popped up in a "market that doesn't buy them", sales increased. https://jalopnik.com/strong-growth-i...o-i-1831561302 |
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How's the fit and finish? How's the build quality? How's the Mexican Made 3 Series overall craftsmanship?
I'm very concerned about the future reliability of this iconic car. I have seen what has happened to the VW Mexican made Jetta's reliability, it's total crap. Only time will tell here in States and Canada. |
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How's the fit and finish? How's the build quality? How's the Mexican Made 3 Series overall craftsmanship?
I'm very concerned about the future reliability of this iconic car. I have seen what has happened to the VW Mexican made Jetta's reliability, it's total crap. Only time will tell here in States and Canada. |
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I don't understand. If the market demands a product, why would a company not supply that product? That's like saying Apple will intentionally sell less iPhones on purpose to people because they're going to lower production. I'm confused. The auto does also come with benefits for MPG figures, so I can see why they'd want to lower manual transmissions. You also can't have an autonomous manual car. With this big push for autonomy and the like, I can somewhat see why they'd lower the production on the manual transmission. |
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Unlike "get it through your head, they just don't sell" idiotic comments from ex salesmen. They don't sell because your New Car Manager didn't order them because he knew he could sell automatic instead. And that goes along with the explanation provided by Sportstick. I do have a serious question to your point. What possessed BMW to make ugly cars such as x1 x2 x4 x6. Who do they compete with? Wouldn't they just sell more X3 and X5 to your point? I'm not familiar with all of the fake-SUV competition out there so I'm asking. |
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While I am not a fan of that type of vehicle (Don't necessarily like the aesthetics, high center of gravity and fake claims of practicality where the much despised Minivan is truly practical when it comes to hauling people and cargo in comfort) they do pay the bills for the vehicles that interest me and those focused towards the hardcore enthusiast set. You have to understand the beauty of the SUV concept. Sheer mediocrity in design, packaging and handling. High profit margins built into each and everyone of them. They sell every single one they make. From the stand point of the manufacturers, what's not to love?
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Very interesting stuff actually... https://www.industryweek.com/global-...acturing-model
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Lest not forget that BMW's first overseas plant was opened in 1973 in Pretoria, South Africa. Plant Rosslyn has one of the highest quality ratings among all plants in the BMW Group network. They produced the 3-Series for 4 decades until 2018 when production switched to the X3. My late E90 was made in South Africa and its build quality, assembly and attention to detail were impeccable. You could not tell that car had in fact being assembled in a facility near Johannesburg. Time will tell if the standards will be similar from G20s coming out of the San Luis Potosí BMW plant in Mexico. I am confident that product quality will be just as good as any other BMW manufactured in German soil or elsewhere.
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the main issue on these forums for MANY years has been that people don't realize this forum makes up a SMALL FRACTION of bmw buyers. you want lightweight cars, but the rest of the people who want these cars for whatever reason actually don't care about anything we want. hence why we have this wonderful forum. no one wants a manual. would you offer a product if only 1% of your customer base wants that specific product? it is actually basic business sense ahhaha the 1% is an example, but you get my point. |
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