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      12-19-2020, 06:02 PM   #1
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4" VS 4,5" Downpipe (M340i G20)

Hey Guys,
I'm Looking for a Downpipe upgrade for my G20 M340i xDrive First Edition.

Unfortunately I live in Brazil, so I only have a few options to choose from, all products I've encountered so far are catless, locally made, constructed with lower graded steel (304), some are polished and some are not, and all of them have only 4" in diameter:

Example 1 (4"):

Example 2 (4"):

Example 3 (4"):


Anybody here can state about the risks of using a 4" downpipe on a G20 M340i instead of a 4,5"? What I would loose/risk?

If it was your M340i, would you have the guts to install one of these three 4" Downpipes shown above? Which one and why?

The one I really wanted, VRSF (4,5"):

https://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-4-5-ca...0i-xdrive.html

Thank you very much for your help if you may.
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Hi,
You can still go with your favorite option and a proven brand even if you live in brazil. We offer very competitive international shipping rates.
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Hi,
You can still go with your favorite option and a proven brand even if you live in brazil. We offer very competitive international shipping rates.
I would really like that, but any imports incoming from the USA/EU are subject to heavy taxation, as follows:

+ 60% General Import Tariff
+ 20% CCB Tax (Crossing Borders Capital Tax)
+ 0,38% TOAF Tax (Tax Over Any Financial Transaction)
+ 7,6% PCTPSW Tax (Program for Capitalization of The Public Servant's Wealth Tax)
+ 1,65% CFSS Tax (Contribution to Finance Social Security Tax)
+ 2% IP Tax (Industrialized Products Tax)
+ 17% SS Tax (State Sales Tax)

It adds up to +108,63% in Due Taxes, to be calculated over the receipt's total price (Including Product Cost + Shipping Cost + Insurance Cost), in addition to a 30-180 day timeline for the package to clear customs after entering Brazil.

A U$400 downpipe + U$100 shipping will become a U$1.086 total cost or about R$5.500 (the price of nearly 4X locally made 4" down-pipes.)

You actually need a smuggler to get anything from the USA and I don't think there is any that accepts to bring a downpipe because of the weight and volume, they usually go by plane, fill their suitcases with small expensive stuff disguised under their clothes and fly back hoping to pass trough customs unnoticed, a large and heavy downpipe would make it almost impossible for them to clear customs discretely and when they get caught all their merchandise gets apprehended and are destined to mass destruction/incineration federal police facilities.

If you find a channel and manage to get your products inside Brazil with only added competitive shipping costs, I would happily become a great and loyal customer of your store.
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I would really like that, but any imports incoming from the USA/EU are subject to heavy taxation, as follows:

+ 60% General Import Tariff
+ 20% CCB Tax (Crossing Borders Capital Tax)
+ 0,38% TOAF Tax (Tax Over Any Financial Transaction)
+ 7,6% PCTPSW Tax (Program for Capitalization of The Public Servant's Wealth Tax)
+ 1,65% CFSS Tax (Contribution to Finance Social Security Tax)
+ 2% IP Tax (Industrialized Products Tax)
+ 17% SS Tax (State Sales Tax)

It adds up to +108,63% in Due Taxes, to be calculated over the receipt's total price (Including Product Cost + Shipping Cost + Insurance Cost), in addition to a 30-180 day timeline for the package to clear customs after entering Brazil.

A U$400 downpipe + U$100 shipping will become a U$1.086 total cost or about R$5.500 (the price of nearly 4X locally made 4" down-pipes.)

You actually need a smuggler to get anything from the USA and I don't think there is any that accepts to bring a downpipe because of the weight and volume, they usually go by plane, fill their suitcases with small expensive stuff disguised under their clothes and fly back hoping to pass trough customs unnoticed, a large and heavy downpipe would make it almost impossible for them to clear customs discretely and when they get caught all their merchandise gets apprehended and are destined to mass destruction/incineration federal police facilities.

If you find a channel and manage to get your products inside Brazil with only added competitive shipping costs, I would happily become a great and loyal customer of your store.

all those taxes are crazy number, will be very stressful if i live in Brazil Any local muffler shop/band can make a downpipe for you?
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Originally Posted by m340iguy View Post
I would really like that, but any imports incoming from the USA/EU are subject to heavy taxation, as follows:

+ 60% General Import Tariff
+ 20% CCB Tax (Crossing Borders Capital Tax)
+ 0,38% TOAF Tax (Tax Over Any Financial Transaction)
+ 7,6% PCTPSW Tax (Program for Capitalization of The Public Servant's Wealth Tax)
+ 1,65% CFSS Tax (Contribution to Finance Social Security Tax)
+ 2% IP Tax (Industrialized Products Tax)
+ 17% SS Tax (State Sales Tax)

It adds up to +108,63% in Due Taxes, to be calculated over the receipt's total price (Including Product Cost + Shipping Cost + Insurance Cost), in addition to a 30-180 day timeline for the package to clear customs after entering Brazil.

A U$400 downpipe + U$100 shipping will become a U$1.086 total cost or about R$5.500 (the price of nearly 4X locally made 4" down-pipes.)
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Hey I was wondering if you could assist me. I order a down pipe for the 228xi N26 and received the one for the N20. I sent your company a few emails and never got a response. Here is the order# 100199232.

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