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To all of you that keep bringing up your experiences with mexican made VWs:
THAT IS A VW PROBLEM, NOT A MEXICO PROBLEM FFS Tons of cars by multiple brands are made here and all I keep hearing here is how VW made a bad job of manufacturing here so BMW surely will make the same mistake? List of cars made here: Fusion, RAM, Silverado, Sentra among others: "Others made in Mexico and sold in the United States include Nissan Versa, 132,214 sold last year in United States, pricing starts at $11,990; Volkswagen Jetta, 121,107, starts at $17,895; Dodge Journey, 106,759 sold, starts at $21,145; GMC Sierra, 99,000, starts at $38,015; Toyota Tacoma, 86,000, starts at $24,320, and the Ford Fiesta, 48,807. Here's hoping that qualified mexican labour will improve BMW's quality to the level of a Toyota Tacoma. It's up to BMW to deliver quality cars wherever they are made.
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10-07-2018, 09:59 AM | #91 |
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All F30 and F80 creak if you have the Shadowline gloss black window trim. It isn't an assembly error, it's the rubber window / door seal rubbing against the plastic trim when the chassis flexes due to the specific materials they chose and the tolerance between the two pieces. The dealerships know to apply a strip of teflon tape to stop the noise and it works perfectly. I've had this done on both of my F30s and now my new F80. If you complain about it they will first want to try lubricating the rubber, ask them to skip that step or say you already tried that and that you want the teflon tape.
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I'm completely biased and I'm going to vote with my wallet. Even though the new X5 looks great, I'm not going to purchase a car assembled by Trumpistan voters. Audi/Jaguar/non-SC and China BMW here I come when my current leases run out.
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10-07-2018, 11:14 AM | #96 |
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10-07-2018, 11:35 AM | #97 |
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I am not to worry being assembled in Mexico or any other country, it all depends on BMW requirements and quality in manufacturing. As far as assembling goes, it's all on individual employees and to be honest there are morons everywhere. Lol
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10-07-2018, 11:36 AM | #98 |
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10-07-2018, 11:46 AM | #100 |
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As of now, 3 Series (G20) assembly plants are:
Germany: Munich China: Shenyang Mexico: San Luis Potosí
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To address everyone else, I find it amusing that some people care more about this than the fact the non-M cars haven't been very "BMW-like" this past generation. Maybe the G-series will address this, but it seems any hesitation should be based upon that versus where they're built. Just sayin'. Last edited by Dethsupp0rt; 10-07-2018 at 12:53 PM.. |
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It is sad time we live in where prejudice and fear are front and center stage with some folks. Instead of barking at the wrong tree (Manufacturing plant, country of origin or people of a certain ethnicity), rather protest the watering down of BMW products over the last decade and the desire and mission to put a BMW product on everyone's driveway at any cost, even their own reputation. Hopefully BMW seems to be righting the ship again with the G series and the CLAR platform. The interiors are dramatically improving as well. Let's see if that is also true of long term quality and reliability. BMWs made in different facilities around the world is not going to change. We live in a very different world from 40-50 years ago and the industry has been forced to respond to these geopolitical challenges. If you don't like it, there are other brands out there but I believe it will be much of the same. Even the "purist" Aston Martin cars is also owned by 2 companies based on Kuwait. Heck Volvo's are being manufactured in China, nice forward thinking Scandinavian interiors and all.
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10-07-2018, 01:19 PM | #107 |
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The assembly in Mexico's BMW plant isn't the problem. I am sure BMW paid decent money to hire good labour there. The problem as someone else suggested is the parts suppliers and metal suppliers from Mexico. Even parts suppliers from Germany BMW have had problems. Mexico is relatively new to the game.
People say don't be racist against Mexico but the reality is that countries like the US, Canada and Germany have been making parts and car assembly for a long long time and Mexico is fairly new to the game when compared. Also education level is lower generally so it isn't people on here being racist but if you look at the facts than you can see where people are coming from. Mexicans are a hard working people as you can see they take jobs that no one in America want to do but sometimes it is about experience and the fact is that the other countries mentioned all have way more experience. |
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The production process and quality control is planed in detail, it's not that easy to deviate from it, no matter where the plant is located. @440xiGCMSport2: Do you have information on how many parts are actually produced in Mexico? Here in Germany it's the engine, drivetrain but I am not even sure about the car body anymore. Most of the small parts come from China anyway. |
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Cars and trucks currently produced in Mexico and sold in the United States: https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...d-south-border
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Let’s face it, when we buy a luxury item with long history and tradition the country of origin is intertwined with the brand. A Rolex made in China anyone? A Ferrari assembled in India? The quality might be as good or better but it no longer has the same connection to the history that shaped the brand. This aspect has nothing to do with the race of the buyer or producer. It’s about brand identity and authenticity.
One of my family members is the owner of a small but successful high-end loudspeaker company. His biggest market is China where the demand is that every single piece even the packaging material need not only to be made in Sweden but clearly markt ”Made in Sweden”. Does it matter on a $1000 IPhone? Hardly, but a +$50k car from a brand with long history? Yeah, I think it does to most if they are honest. |
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