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      12-12-2018, 03:10 PM   #67
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Would it be fair to say the Xdrive version could do it in the 12.2 Mark?
And also 4 seconds flat to 60
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Yep. Numbers like these help put the price into perspective for all those people who think it is overpriced.
That's what my stock Evo 9 ran....$32k and 12 years ago.
ya but the Evo was a tin box no luxury. you can make any car go fast if you just want that. To make a luxury car do it with the weight and handling is a whole different ball game. The 3er does dual role while the Evo did a single role.
Point is 12.6 does not make the car worth it at 57-70k or more. And luxury cars are not offered with sensatec seats.
if you don't consider a 3er entry level luxury sport sedan than you must be a sheik. To most I think it falls into this category sensatac or not. I don't think any BMW in Canada or US come with Sensatac anyways. I think Dakota leather is standard.
Also it's plenty of technologies that come into play why "Luxury cars" are priced as such. Even though the engine does play a part, that's not the only contributing factor.
Exactly. Look at a Bentley or Rolls and they aren't any faster. That is my point when the other guy was comparing his old EVO to the 3er just on speed. Heck just get a used civic and pop an engine in it. It will outrun lambos.
The 3er is the standard in its class for a reason. while the competition is real close BMW is still on top just by a bit. This coming from an Audi guy and MB guy. This is only my 2nd BMW and I am starting to see the reason why it is still on top.
I'm not saying there the same, just the qtr time. But someone was saying the the qtr time justifies the price tag, to me it just doesn't. Honestly, I'd think it be faster based on the AWD and stated hp/tq figures. Must be a heavy girl.
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12.6 is still impressive. It's like the same as my m4 zcp......maybe I am a bad driver
What? I ran a 12.5 with my 435i xdrive.
The tires slipped too much. It was my first and only run.
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Guys comparing times on a vbox in an unknown location with unknown pressure, unknown temperature to other unknowns is pretty funny.

The only way to compare is when carwow puts the car next to another car. And I'm sure they will put it next to the 340i when it comes out. By then you'll know.

Everything else is just you wasting your time as it won't make sense one way or the other.
literally the answer to this entire thread. it was ONE test hahahah from what it looks like nothing was prepped and it was just that one take. you need apples to apples comparisons. if edmunds did it with the f30 in whatever time then wait for edmunds to come out with a new test and then compare. from this one video we have it's safe to say the m340i is going to deliver. if you don't like the price tag then get something YOU think is worth the money. people here have way too much time to speculate and half of you are not even in the market for this damn car or will ever own one.
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Am I the only one that thinks 12.6 and 112mph trap speed is not that impressive? I think if it was a 12.4 and 117mph trap speed then for a non M car I would be impressed. Not much difference I know but 12.6 is not that much better than a 2018 340i with xDrive. But compare 12.4 to the old 340i and that's my would be impressive.
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Yep. Numbers like these help put the price into perspective for all those people who think it is overpriced.
That's what my stock Evo 9 ran....$32k and 12 years ago.
ya but the Evo was a tin box no luxury. you can make any car go fast if you just want that. To make a luxury car do it with the weight and handling is a whole different ball game. The 3er does dual role while the Evo did a single role.
Point is 12.6 does not make the car worth it at 57-70k or more. And luxury cars are not offered with sensatec seats.
Comparing your evo to a 340 is idiotic.. it's a null comparison. Evo"s build quality, features, and ride quality are horrid.
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Am I the only one that thinks 12.6 and 112mph trap speed is not that impressive?
Yes, the number doesn't look so impressive, but this is the only 1/4 run to date I'm pretty sure others will have a chance to break that record.
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Yes, the number doesn't look so impressive, but this is the only 1/4 run to date I'm pretty sure others will have a chance to break that record.
Agree, far to early to make any judgements on the true performance.
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Carwow should put a jb4 on the press car and do some runs, then remove it before returning to bmw. Also do a Dinan tune and a mission performance flash tune.
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Yep. Numbers like these help put the price into perspective for all those people who think it is overpriced.
A $35k mustang GT A10 beats this $57k+ AWD car by .8 seconds in the 1/4 and is faster to 60.

I mean it's ok but not really a great value proposition if you want a fast car. Plus it has almost no mod headroom with the b58 beyond a few more HP from a JB4 or flash, and youd have to add meth and turbo swap to even get much above 450 whp
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Am I the only one that thinks 12.6 and 112mph trap speed is not that impressive? I think if it was a 12.4 and 117mph trap speed then for a non M car I would be impressed.
An M3/4 with 6 MT does 12.4 @ 117 and it has 40 more HP and weighs a couple hundred lbs less than the M340. The xDrive hooks up so 12.6s sounds about right. The 112 trap seems legit also. A 2016 C450 with 362 HP did 13.1 @ 108. This BMW is substantially faster. Wait until instrumented tests come out from the major mags for legitimacy.
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Am I the only one that thinks 12.6 and 112mph trap speed is not that impressive? I think if it was a 12.4 and 117mph trap speed then for a non M car I would be impressed.
An M3/4 with 6 MT does 12.4 @ 117 and it has 40 more HP and weighs a couple hundred lbs less than the M340. The xDrive hooks up so 12.6s sounds about right. The 112 trap seems legit also. A 2016 C450 with 362 HP did 13.1 @ 108. This BMW is substantially faster.
"Sounds about right" is not the same as "that's impressive". I'm just saying it doesn't sound impressive to me.
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A $35k mustang GT A10 beats this $57k+ AWD car by .8 seconds in the 1/4 and is faster to 60.
I've never heard of a GT doing a 11.8s in the1/4. Any sources?
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I've never heard of a GT doing a 11.8s in the1/4. Any sources?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roa...-quarter-mile/

I’m not sure if he had tires or not. Didn’t re-read the article, but I remember when it came out.

Cars are getting fast these days
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Weren’t the initial tests of the 2016 340i trapping 105 and 106 when it first came out (magazine times)?

Personally, I just hope that the power bump isn’t just flash based. I hope some hardware was changed, such as the turbo. 😈😈
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Carwow should put a jb4 on the press car and do some runs, then remove it before returning to bmw. Also do a Dinan tune and a mission performance flash tune.
Sure, why not throw some pure turbos on it too while you're at it?

How are they supposed to add a tune that doesn't exist for that platform yet? Maybe same engine, but boost can be different etc for a piggyback, and flash would definitely to be independently developed for the updated DME.
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Carwow should put a jb4 on the press car and do some runs, then remove it before returning to bmw. Also do a Dinan tune and a mission performance flash tune.
Sure, why not throw some pure turbos on it too while you're at it?

How are they supposed to add a tune that doesn't exist for that platform yet? Maybe same engine, but boost can be different etc for a piggyback, and flash would definitely to be independently developed for the updated DME.
I was assuming it's still the b58 so most tunes should work that we're for the f30 b58. I guess in this case it's the b48. Or actually it's both depending on which press car you're referring to.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.roa...-quarter-mile/

I’m not sure if he had tires or not. Didn’t re-read the article, but I remember when it came out.

Cars are getting fast these days

10 speed and pp1 tires, so 275 p4s at the back. Swap the tires,go e85 tune and bolt ons and it's a low 11s car NA

The 18 has drag mode which makes it a beast to launch (and dual injection so it doesnt need supplementary fueling until still high horsepower levels)

BMW is way behind in the numbers game, but they do have a nicer cabin and a back seat
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12.6 is still impressive. It's like the same as my m4 zcp......maybe I am a bad driver
What? I ran a 12.5 with my 435i xdrive.
The tires slipped too much. It was my first and only run.
Oh. Ok. I did 13 runs lol.
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Carwow should put a jb4 on the press car and do some runs, then remove it before returning to bmw. Also do a Dinan tune and a mission performance flash tune.
Sure, why not throw some pure turbos on it too while you're at it?

How are they supposed to add a tune that doesn't exist for that platform yet? Maybe same engine, but boost can be different etc for a piggyback, and flash would definitely to be independently developed for the updated DME.
I was assuming it's still the b58 so most tunes should work that we're for the f30 b58. I guess in this case it's the b48. Or actually it's both depending on which press car you're referring to.
Yeah but G20 platform may have the sensors in different places, base boost will be different (jb4 works by adding x boost over stock, and without knowing what the new base is, could lead to trouble), and DME will be tied to the G platform which may make flash tuning hard to crack, and even if it wasn't, boost and timing will be different given the new base tune for both cars. Point is that it's not a simple plug and play, and will require a bit of development. Remember both engines have different numbers (hp and tq) from their F30 predecessors despite being the same engine code.
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and youd have to add meth and turbo swap to even get much above 450 whp
Not necessarily true. B58 makes 450-460rwhp with just meth and a stock turbo. The 18’ GT A10 is fast stock no doubt I actually owned a mustang in the past, but at times it’s not just paying for the performance the quality does play a big roll (at least for me) and I can never compare my F30 to my Mustang... the drive, comfort, feel is comparing apples to oranges.


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