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I setup one myself since I liked the Dravit Grey color and came out to roughly 60k for a M340i xDrive.
I'm surprised by the pricing considering... for 5k more I can actually get a lightly optioned and new AMG C63 or a Giulia QV. This is extremely pricey. Hm...
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I agree BMW Dakota isn't the nicest feeling stuff but it sure beats the hell out of cloth and Sensatec. Nowadays, aside from the 2-series, Vernasca leather is stanadard which feels MUCH nicer than Dakota. And on the topic of temperature, are ventilated seats even an option with cloth? There's no replacement for real leather in my book. |
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Sometimes you can't even do anything about it, like when it's hot as hell out and you get sweaty or you just worked out at the gym. That sweat and odors are more difficult to get out of cloth than leather. With the latter you'll just get a surface that becomes progressively shiny and will need a quick cleaning/conditioning to be restored. |
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You can find new ones on the lot right now for cheaper after negotiating. I negotiated my former M3 stripper down to 57k (new) after incentives.
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I really see no reason why anyone needs to build a 70k 340i. Are you selecting every damn option available? To each his own, I suppose, but you should easily be able to get one in around 57k
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Not to mention who actually pays full sticker on a high-volume series production car? A $57k car should sell at ~$50K in the real world after a 12% discount, which is a pretty fair discount to both the dealer and buyer. Anyone bitching about the price simply needs to learn a lesson in both patience and negotiation. BMW builds these discount margins into their book keeping and is certainly ready to sell at a reasonable discount as soon as the initial wave of eager buyers start to disappear.
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Plus sporty cars work great with cloth. I'd always pick the cloth option on M3's over their leather. The old 991 R had incredible cloth seats. Miata cloth has always been nicer than their BMW-ish leather. My M Coupe had semi aniline seats and door inserts, but most of the center console was more of a waxed leather. Still pretty good. But Mein Got I wouldn't go back to leather for TX summers. Even ventilated leather is the devil compared to cloth in triple digit weather. And clearly sitting on leather on long trips is hotter than cloth. If I could spec a nice veg tan Sepici leather or some Horween horse hide, I'd probably reconsider things, but the half ass things that BMW puts in anything under six figures is easy not to miss. Even the Audi alcantara in S cars is pretty cool compared to leather and breathes much better too. Kind of a shame it only comes in black, but still not bad. |
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$65k for a slushbox with vague steering feel. No thanks! Lightly used F80/82 with MT is the way to go if you are in the market.
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The plaid cloth pattern on some of the Golfs and 911s looks neat. I suppose cloth can be done right if it's from a high-end manufacturer. But maybe it's my OCD tendencies that I obsess over what I feel are "real" materials. Leather, woods, and metal inside a car's cabin get me off. |
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At 65-66k the M340 is pretty much fully loaded. A fully loaded M3 is 82k with DCT or 79k with manual so that's still a big difference.
The G80 M3 fully loaded will be definitely more than 82k so that difference will only get higher Comparing a fully loaded M340 to a stock F80 M3 is useless bc it's not the same thing, then you are sacrificing some comfort or tech features for something else. Also comparing it to a used F80 is pretty pointless . . You can find a used Porsche 911 for even less . . Maybe that's a better buy then.
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New M550i *starts* at $74,450. Hell, that doesn't even include enhanced BT...
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And it is still a 3er. It's like spending thousands on Swarovski jewelry but your girl still wants a diamond...
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For me, I'd get used F80 while the prices are low and cars are practically new and under warranty. M340 will not beat m or 5 series. Not worth the money in my opinion. But you vote with your money go pay 65k for a 3er with 380hp and enhanced BT.
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