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Sounds like you did a similar journey to me! I travelled 200 miles from the North East to collect mine and coming home mostly motorway saw 44mpg, unreal! Not the best though since had a whisker over 46mpg on a mainly motorway run! Over 4.5k miles in now and it still returns ridiculously frugal mpg figures on steady motorway runs, the engine note is sounding slightly deeper and louder and it goes like a bat out of hell if necessary! Brilliant for effortless overtakes on the likes of the A68, A697 and a myriad of lesser 'B' roads in the Kingdom of Northumbria! |
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I'd argue that driving quickly enough to do that for 200 miles would be pretty taxing and given the state of our roads nigh on impossible!😆 |
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The performance and long range models is different again and this wasn’t what I was comparing the 340i against |
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11-01-2021, 04:04 PM | #50 |
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I marvel at the fact that we're all giving so much airtime to Teslas (and yes, I'm complicit in this) in a forum that is otherwise devoted to admiring the sound and spirit of one of the best inline 6s produced in recent times... The folks in Whitehall really must be putting something in the water to accelerate compliance ahead of 2030.
[Correction: I should have referred to specific and originating thread topic and conversation, not the 'forum' here.]
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In previous jobs I regularly did business trips of more than 100 miles each way in a day so, if Autocar's figures are broadly accurate, that says to me I'd be struggling to do the equivalent journey comfortably in an EV without a recharge (unless of course I was prepared to drive pretty sedately to eek out the range). In contrast, an M340i or M340d will do way more than that without needing to go anywhere near a filling station.... |
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Also charging on Tesla network for example £13 gave him 130 miles which is roughly the same as a diesel and not super cheap like people say about EV. Charging at home is totally different, my point again is its not everything people bang on about The other day I saw a 3 hour queue on the M5 for the EV chargers. Thats enough to put me off at present |
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11-01-2021, 05:03 PM | #53 |
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beerglass007 it would make sense to compare the Model 3 Performance to the M340i though on price and performance?
Also oddly that £66,790 figure is exactly the amount if you include full self driving, which I'm not sure the M340i has? Fair play, my 320d would cost about £19 for those same 130 miles but then he can charge at home and it would cost £5 and hit 60mph twice as fast as me DavidXJ I'd rather ignore Tesla completely, however not everyone on this forum owns an M340i, we aren't all devoted to it's engine, as good as it is... JNW1 Carwow's test on motorways got to 285 miles, and the average commute in the UK is about 23 miles so for 99% of people I'm sure they'll be fine!
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Lord Bamford hits a very relevant point (in the Harry's Garage video). The average electric car is used 300 hours a year so range & recharging isn't really an issue for most (while it is with big commercial vehicles). I look at the number of 250+ mile journeys that I do in a year and it's probably about 20 (ie 10 there and 10 back). I asked my wife what the longest journey she'd ever done in her car, and it was sub 200. So I suggested to her that she should go electric, but she rather likes her Scooby Outback for the size (son's wheelchair + other bits). I've also got a pickup truck, so I'll very likely go full electric for her when the time comes to change her car. She's not interested in performance models, so cost should be somewhat less.
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It's not necessarily a case of giving air time to Tesla - or any other marque - it's just the blind refusal of some on here to see any merit in any vehicle that's not an M340i. It's tiring.
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Indeed, given the name of the forum one would have expected it to cover a broad range of subjects on G20 and G21 cars but in fact it is "a forum that is otherwise devoted to admiring the sound and spirit of one of the best inline 6s produced in recent times". So I stand corrected: it's for owners of S54 engined-cars only.
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However, there's also a lot of people who can't charge at home and for those who do longer trips on a regular basis you could easily be doing over 200 miles in a day. For example, in one of the jobs I used to do I attended a monthly meeting in North Wales which entailed a round trip of around 270 miles; starting with a full tank of fuel I never needed to think about stopping to fill-up but I wouldn't be comfortable undertaking a journey like that in a Tesla (or any other EV) without recharging, especially in colder weather in the winter. So, while I agree EV's will work for a lot of people, at the moment I don't think they'll work for everyone (or at least they won't be as convenient as an ICE vehicle). But I also think that will change quite significantly which is why I'm of the view stick to your ICE for now unless you have to change it; in four or five years I think the EV choice will be much better than it is today so I'll sit on my hands for now and see how things look in about 2025! |
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Maybe you chaps need to read what people are actually saying rather than what you think they're saying? I can certainly see the merit in cars other than the M340i (whether Tesla, another EV or indeed another ICE car) but that doesn't mean I'm going to swallow all the EV propaganda at face value; EV's certainly work for a lot of people but, at the moment, IMO they're not as convenient for everyone as an ICE vehicle.
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I agree with regard to EVs but there are undeniably some on here that think the M340i is the only thing worth bothering with, even wrt ICE vehicles.
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Just not a Tesla, maybe an i4 when I can, but then I'm lucky I don't have to buy my cars I completely agree that EVs aren't for everyone and probably won't ever be, I'd like to see BMW develop it's hydrogen cars more, but that's even further from the topic of conversation!!
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If there are people who think like that about the M340i then I'd agree they're wrong; it's a very good all-rounder - especially in Touring form - but it's not perfect (not that any car is!).
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