Bimmerpost
3
/
4 Series
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Technical Topics Suspension / Chassis / Brakes Upgraded my M sport brakes to M Performace brake

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-25-2020, 01:41 AM   #1
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Cool Upgraded my M sport brakes to M Performace brake

Upgraded M performance brakes onto my G20 with 20 inch 795M wheels
The car is so much more aggressive now. The Mperformance brake kit has 374mm front slotted disc and 345mm rear slotted disc, the calipers are larger in size to for larger pistons
Attached Images
     
Appreciate 3
      07-25-2020, 06:05 AM   #2
M340_pilot
Second Lieutenant
88
Rep
210
Posts

Drives: 2020 M340i
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Ft Worth

iTrader: (0)

Looks great!

Would you mind posting the kit part #?
__________________
Sold: 2020 M340i, BM3, VRSF catted dp, MPE, Dinan springs
Appreciate 1
330iToy74.00
      07-25-2020, 06:24 AM   #3
Nashville
BMW Sales
Nashville's Avatar
1099
Rep
449
Posts

Drives: G20 Msport, 1996 Civic DX
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Nashville, Tn

iTrader: (0)

What did you do with the old setup?
__________________
G20, but I love my Honda
Appreciate 1
330iToy74.00
      07-26-2020, 10:08 PM   #4
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M340_pilot View Post
Looks great!

Would you mind posting the kit part #?
It's 34112450161
Appreciate 2
      07-29-2020, 12:30 AM   #5
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nashville View Post
What did you do with the old setup?
I kept it at home just in case anything happens haha
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 08:23 AM   #6
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6288
Rep
4,519
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

So the calipers are the same as the upgraded cooling package and brake package only red? Looks like it.
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 1
      07-29-2020, 09:28 AM   #7
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

There's actually grow in size on both the calipers and brake disc. Calipers are larger for larger pistons.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 11:37 AM   #8
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6288
Rep
4,519
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richard billiamm View Post
There's actually grow in size on both the calipers and brake disc. Calipers are larger for larger pistons.
I'm pretty sure they are no bigger than the upgraded track package brakes (which are bigger than the standard blue brakes). Here, look at mine they are bigger than the blue standard brakes in the first picture but look identical (only blue) to the red caliper. The discs are what is different.
Attached Images
  
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 12:20 PM   #9
del82
Second Lieutenant
104
Rep
250
Posts

Drives: BMW M340i xdrive
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burrcold View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard billiamm View Post
There's actually grow in size on both the calipers and brake disc. Calipers are larger for larger pistons.
I'm pretty sure they are no bigger than the upgraded track package brakes (which are bigger than the standard blue brakes). Here, look at mine they are bigger than the blue standard brakes in the first picture but look identical (only blue) to the red caliper. The discs are what is different.
Same size as the track package / cooling package is also my understanding. In fact the tech specs look exactly the same. Although the discs are different (if they come with the red brakes?)

But I paid £300 for them as factory install not the £2k these cost....
__________________
Current: 2020 M340i
Past: M140i, Z4 35is
Appreciate 2
      07-29-2020, 12:25 PM   #10
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6288
Rep
4,519
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by del82 View Post
Same size as the track package / cooling package is also my understanding. In fact the tech specs look exactly the same. Although the discs are different (if they come with the red brakes?)

But I paid £300 for them as factory install not the £2k these cost....
Yup I agree!
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 09:11 PM   #11
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burrcold View Post
I'm pretty sure they are no bigger than the upgraded track package brakes (which are bigger than the standard blue brakes). Here, look at mine they are bigger than the blue standard brakes in the first picture but look identical (only blue) to the red caliper. The discs are what is different.
Ohhh its because the original one was M sport brakes, my G20 is a 330i. Hope that unties the misunderstanding hahahah...
Appreciate 1
Burrcold6287.50
      07-29-2020, 09:33 PM   #12
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6288
Rep
4,519
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richard billiamm View Post
Ohhh its because the original one was M sport brakes, my G20 is a 330i. Hope that unties the misunderstanding hahahah...
Even the standard M340i without the upgraded track/cooling package, gets the same size calipers as your 330i with M Sport package.
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 10:26 PM   #13
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burrcold View Post
Even the standard M340i without the upgraded track/cooling package, gets the same size calipers as your 330i with M Sport package.
If you have a close look at the red and blue caliper in my photo, there is a slight difference in their design. Also there is grow in size so it will be able to fit a larger disc
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 10:28 PM   #14
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6288
Rep
4,519
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richard billiamm View Post
If you have a close look at the red and blue caliper in my photo, there is a slight difference in their design. Also there is grow in size so it will be able to fit a larger disc
That is correct. However, look at my picture and you will see it's the same as your red caliper (larger caliper body).
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 10:36 PM   #15
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burrcold View Post
That is correct. However, look at my picture and you will see it's the same as your red caliper (larger caliper body).
Thats true, but my conversion is from M sport to M performace brakes, so the disc and calipers will change. If its for M340i, the only difference might really be only the slotted disc.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2020, 10:40 PM   #16
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6288
Rep
4,519
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richard billiamm View Post
Thats true, but my conversion is from M sport to M performace brakes, so the disc and calipers will change. If its for M340i, the only difference might really be only the slotted disc.
It's still an upgrade (caliper and disc) for the M340i as well, unless you have the track package then you get the even larger brake calipers (like the blue ones in my picture and your red ones in yours) but the discs are not cross drilled and slotted like yours. They are larger discs though.
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2020, 09:38 PM   #17
phayze
Second Lieutenant
30
Rep
208
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Singapore

iTrader: (0)

The rear m performance is 1 pot or 2 Pot?
Appreciate 0
      08-03-2020, 09:50 PM   #18
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6288
Rep
4,519
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by phayze View Post
The rear m performance is 1 pot or 2 Pot?
One
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2020, 09:23 PM   #19
WXdrivefun
Lieutenant
WXdrivefun's Avatar
Canada
296
Rep
463
Posts

Drives: G20 330Xdrive
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Great clear photos of the brakes, but in my opinion the additional cost of the upgrading to red M-Performance brakes + 795M wheels + labour + 13% tax on G20 330 is comes very close to the cost G20 M340.

Very hard to swallow.. Nevertheless looks great!
Appreciate 1
      08-17-2020, 04:47 AM   #20
blau3er
Captain
1345
Rep
735
Posts

Drives: F31 30d
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Looks good - but to clear up any confusion...

All G2x cars that come with the M Sport braking system come with the 4 pot blue Brembo as shown in the OP's comparison photo - this is the smallest of all the G series 4 pot calipers and uses 348mm discs. They will also have the 345mm rear calipers.

The only exception to the rule, as has been mentioned, is the M340i - which if optioned with the track handling pack - gets upgraded to the bigger blue 4 pots which use a 374mm disc. Again, the rears are 345mm and are not upgraded vs the other G2x cars with M Sport brakes. M340i cars that didn't have the track pack selected get the 348mm fronts as default.

Therefore, if you are a M340i owner with the track package and then fit the M Performance brakes to your car, you are literally removing the identical braking system that you would be replacing it with - the only difference being red paint and dimpled / slotted discs.

If you are a regular G2x owner and opt to fit these to a car that already has the 348mm front and 345mm rear - then you are upgrading the front only, as the rears remain the same size.

The cheaper option is to source blue or even better the grey 374mm brake calipers on ebay etc and then buy the 4 x M Perf discs - then custom paint the 4 calipers!
Appreciate 5
      08-18-2020, 04:26 AM   #21
iCARMIX
iCARMIX's Avatar
Hong Kong
336
Rep
653
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by blau3er View Post
Looks good - but to clear up any confusion...

All G2x cars that come with the M Sport braking system come with the 4 pot blue Brembo as shown in the OP's comparison photo - this is the smallest of all the G series 4 pot calipers and uses 348mm discs. They will also have the 345mm rear calipers.

The only exception to the rule, as has been mentioned, is the M340i - which if optioned with the track handling pack - gets upgraded to the bigger blue 4 pots which use a 374mm disc. Again, the rears are 345mm and are not upgraded vs the other G2x cars with M Sport brakes. M340i cars that didn't have the track pack selected get the 348mm fronts as default.

Therefore, if you are a M340i owner with the track package and then fit the M Performance brakes to your car, you are literally removing the identical braking system that you would be replacing it with - the only difference being red paint and dimpled / slotted discs.

If you are a regular G2x owner and opt to fit these to a car that already has the 348mm front and 345mm rear - then you are upgrading the front only, as the rears remain the same size.

The cheaper option is to source blue or even better the grey 374mm brake calipers on ebay etc and then buy the 4 x M Perf discs - then custom paint the 4 calipers!
Nice explanation!
Appreciate 0
      10-30-2020, 07:06 AM   #22
MPSdriver
Private First Class
MPSdriver's Avatar
Belgium
192
Rep
125
Posts

Drives: F30 328i xDrive
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: Europe

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by richard billiamm View Post
I kept it at home just in case anything happens haha
The red callipers work well with the blue body color!

My old F30 328i brakes are also lying around on a shelve in the basement in case something goes wrong with the M-performance ones. Three years / 50k km and going strong

Do these new M performance brakes also make that clattering noise which is heard especially with the windows down when passing a wall or in a tunnel? I was very noticeable on the F30 M-performance brakes and I wonder if the made modifications to avoid that.
Seeing that the rotors are still dimpled and slotted I guessing noise levels would be similar but you can tell from experience.
Appreciate 1
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:38 PM.




g20
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST