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There are a lot of places in the world full of Oil, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Cuba, Chile and Argentina in Patagonia, not to mention Antarctica, even coal. The problem is that not everyone is authorized to start operations there so as not to flood the market. (only a handful of people control that) I prefer to fill the tank in 5 to 10 minutes stop and have a range of 800km than to wait more than an hour for a range of 300km. (if I find where to recharge energy) And regarding climate zombies, do you think that giving money to politicians will clean up the planet?, Better ask them to stop making disposable things and reuse more |
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It's not just the EV fires which are near impossible to put out compared with say a petrol (gas) or diesel fire which can be put out quickly when the fire brigade arrives or by a hand held portable fire extinguisher if quick action is taken, (I carry one in my car which is in the trunk)
It's not knowing when or where an EV will suddenly erupt on fire so quickly for no known reason whether it's being driven, parked up or being charged, and the risk from electric bikes as seen in shown vids is also is very concerning. |
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07-25-2023, 03:20 PM | #3106 |
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07-25-2023, 04:29 PM | #3108 | |
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this is just ignorant on so many levels... I have solar on my home and an EV as a daily driver, even if it is about saving money, it is still doing much more for the climate than doing nothing....i know some of you EV hating climate deniers try to find all these lame anecdotes about how they are more harmful than ICE vehicles, but you sound as ridiculous as flat earther's. The ideas behind it are laughable... the smartest scientists in the world could tell you all of the realities of how we are heading for an irreversable cataclysmic disaster and you still wouldnt belive it...sadly this has become political like most things, instead of just plain common sense and about doing the right thing. https://www.nytimes.com/article/clim...rming-faq.html subsidies?? lol yall act like EV's are the only thing being subsidized Size of Fossil Fuel Subsidies Globally, fossil fuel subsidies are were $5.9 trillion or 6.8 percent of GDP in 2020 and are expected to increase to 7.4 percent of GDP in 2025 as the share of fuel consumption in emerging markets (where price gaps are generally larger) continues to climb. https://www.eesi.org/papers/view/fac...societal-costs |
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For the record I'm not an EV hater, I'm a realist. Reality is, these aren't the solution that they are being sold as. It borders on fraud. |
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dude, read some actual studies by actual scientest who don't have an agenda... read the MIT study on EV vs ICE and many others out there that basically say the same thing.... |
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Yes we could continue. Neither are "safe", nor specifically clean, nor free of occasional catastrophic failure or loss of life. I suppose the reason it comes up is because batteries are known to spontaneously combust, where as gasoline tanks are not. Gas tanks are a store of fuel, batteries are both a store of fuel and a potential ignition source. The attention they get is scientifically significant and deserved. |
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Would that be the same scientists that survive on government grants and have been caught lying numerous times (hockey stick)? You really don't need to listen to anyone, just pick up a basic geology book with geologic timelines and study. I have faith that with a open mind you will figure it out on your own, assuming of course you want to.
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It's just moving the problem, while the real polluters as industry, shipments etc don't see change. Wanna talk about China, India and new industrialized countries that started emitting bad things for the climate as USA and Europe did since centuries ago? There are so much variables to the problem, ice/ev aren't one of em. Cars are an infinitesimal source of co2 and pollution in comparison to energy and goods production, but it's so an easy train for money versus forcing industries into a greener approach... Ah yes, industries literally PAY for polluting. 2030...no comment.
It's not saying there's no temperature increase, just the modalities for fighting it are ridiculous Edit For example, here where I live it's a small valley, every winter it gets a sort of seasonal light smoke dome from all the house heating and wood stoves, ever heard anyone talking about chimney filters? Personally, no But teslas will save the planet lol Last edited by PhaceN52; 07-25-2023 at 05:34 PM.. |
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I posted data that shows there are far more than 100k ICE vehicle fires a year, I haven't seen anything to show EV's are anywhere close to the same risk. Until I do I won't worry about it (follow the data). Quote:
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How many ICE cars are there compared to EV's, and what is the average age of each. Come to the discussion with logic and facts please. It will be an endless circle jerk no doubt, since neither platform is free of risk/danger. Quote:
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All the jokes will be funnier when that time comes and it's happening before your eyes. I guess the JAKES stops there! lmaoooooooooooooooooo But aside from that, good to know i still got it. Shit is too easy
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I just want to remind everyone that it is highly unlikely that any opinions will change regardless of the cogency of your arguments in this thread.
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As someone who has done research, I find your claims to be laughable and offensive at the same time. You think there's some kind of money trail here...try following the lobbyists.
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