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I would own a plug in hybrid if not for the LiPo batteries. I will be very interested in the facts and roll out of solid state batteries. Yes Efthreeoh has been on point on this but this is cultist behavior and income redistribution which always trumps common sense.
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I agree but I suspect there is more to this. At the end of the day it comes down to money. I suspect that ESG has a huge effect on this behind the scenes as well as CAFE laws as a EV will move the curve more that a hybrid.
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Chasing the free Government Cheese.
BMW USA CEO: Slower Growth in EV Sales, 6 EV Models from Spartanburg Plant The company anticipates manufacturing six fully electric vehicle models in its Spartanburg, South Carolina plant by 2030. Mackensen wouldn’t outline the exact models, but we expect to see a BMW iX5, iX6 and iX7. BMW Group announced plans to spend $1.7 billion to build EVs and batteries in the United States. Of the total investment, $700 million is reserved for a new high-voltage battery assembly plant situated in Woodruff, South Carolina. BMW’s EVs have also been heavily incetivized recently with the iX having credits as high as $9500 and with dealers discounting more than 10 percent on average. https://www.bmwblog.com/2023/12/13/b...o-on-ev-sales/ By the time BMW gets there, the $7,500.00 Government Cheese may be gone. |
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Currently the IX is their only Pure EV product. All the rest are a platform to accommodate both ev and ice and plug in hybrid powertrains. I don't think bmw should qualify for the credit. The credit should be reserved for sub 50k EVs so that the people who need support benefit. Why offer it to people buying a 100k plus IX. |
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The reason that I posted that article is to point out that because of the changes (restrictions) to the EV rules to qualify for tax incentives it will be necessary to produce batteries or battery components in the US and to build a percentage of the vehicle on the US. Audi, Mercedes and BMW will have to meet these requirements to get the free government cheese for their customers. Lets see who tries a business relationship with Ford Motor Co because that has worked so well for European based automotive companies in the past.
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The Chinese automaker has big plans for Europe in 2025, but it's still working on a plan to enter the American market.
Dec 15, 2023 Chinese electric vehicle maker Nio is reportedly working on a plan to enter the American market, though the dates are a little hazy. Ganesh Iyer, CEO Nio USA, said the company is considering "any kind of partnerships" in North America. As far Europe, well, that's another story. Company president Lihong Qin told reporters that Nio will launch its cheaper Firefly brand in Europe in 2025. Chinese EV makers are drawn to Europe because auto import tariffs are just 10% versus 27.5% in the U.S. https://www.thestreet.com/electric-v...and-heres-when A Chinese EV called "Firefly" Man you can't make this stuff up. |
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Chinese cars will take over in next 5 to 10yrs. As boomers die off - new generations are much more acceptable of EVs and will just buy whatever is best for the $$$. None of this is good for enthusiasts as Chinese never had ICE cars so they could care less about manuals and “connection” with a car. Sad that all the German brands are forced to give up decades of engineering leverage/expertise and basically compete against Chinese companies. The EU and US governments sold us out again. |
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That's cute ev chat bots are at it again
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