12-19-2023, 04:14 PM | #5347 |
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Exactly what I am thinking too. All those parking garages that were build in the 70,80 even 90, they were not built to carry those extra heavy loads from EV cars. Nightmare is going to happen anytime soon.
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Was every vehicle manufacturer supposed to develop their own proprietary charging network? How would have Tesla survived had the obscene investment dollars thrown at it had those dollars been spread over the six or so significant industry leaders? Had there not been basically an investment guarantee backed by Uncle Sam one has to doubt would Tesla have seen the investment it did. Going to the NACS charging format is not going to be the God-send everyone thinks it will be. Tesla's network is not infinite and there are large gaps in charging infrastructure density both in Europe and the US. Not every Tesla charger will work with CSS EV. Tesla can't support the entire US EV conversion alone, not in vehicle production nor infrastructure density. We are seeing now that EV adoption may be slowing after the initial 10 years and may never see the market absorption wished for. The book still has a lot of chapters to be written. Last edited by Efthreeoh; 12-19-2023 at 08:18 PM.. |
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lmao the hyperbolic nonsense on here is hilarious a Model 3 wieghs about 200 lbs more than a 3 series and about 200 lbs less than a 5 series |
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12-20-2023, 05:14 AM | #5352 |
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Not every one drives a Tesla.
"State of play: Electric vehicles can be anywhere from hundreds to thousands of pounds heavier than similarly sized gas vehicles because EV batteries are so much heavier than engines." While the Manhattan parking garage collapse in early April was not blamed on EVs, the disaster nonetheless underscored an issue of growing concern: whether aging roads and old garages can handle all the extra weight. Less than two weeks before the collapse, a British Parking Association official recommended that parking structures integrate higher load-bearing weights amid concerns about more EVs, the Telegraph reported. https://www.axios.com/2023/04/28/evs...afety-problems |
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12-20-2023, 06:28 AM | #5353 |
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A little off target but the Green grift rolls on. Which car companies will be added to the list before this is over?
“Last summer the Department of Energy (DOE) gave it a $6.7 million grant and earlier this year it received a $1.4 million contract from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). This week SunPower shares are down sharply following a Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) filing warning of “substantial doubt” about its ability to continue operating.” Judicial Watch reported. The complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies: Evergreen Solar ($25 million)* SpectraWatt ($500,000)* Solyndra ($535 million)* Beacon Power ($43 million)* Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million) SunPower ($1.2 billion) First Solar ($1.46 billion) Babcock and Brown ($178 million) EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)* Amonix ($5.9 million) Fisker Automotive ($529 million) Abound Solar ($400 million)* A123 Systems ($279 million)* Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)* Johnson Controls ($299 million) Schneider Electric ($86 million) Brightsource ($1.6 billion) ECOtality ($126.2 million) Raser Technologies ($33 million)* Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)* Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)* Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)* Range Fuels ($80 million)* Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)* Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)* Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)* GreenVolts ($500,000) Vestas ($50 million) LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million) Nordic Windpower ($16 million)* Navistar ($39 million) Satcon ($3 million)* Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)* Mascoma Corp. ($100 million) A million here, a million there and pretty soon you're talking about real money. Hey we can just print more money, what could possibly go wrong? |
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BMW USA CEO: Slower Growth in EV Sales, 6 EV Models from Spartanburg Plant
December 13, 2023 Addressing the challenges of pricing in the EV market, Mackensen highlighted BMW’s approach of offering lease credits to retail customers. By leveraging federal subsidies through this incentive program, BMW aims to make its electric lineup more accessible to consumers. Mackensen emphasized, “The consumer doesn’t seem to be open to pay a real price premium for a different propulsion technology.” Currently, inventory levels are almost back to pre-COVID levels and the overall demand for vehicles slowed down. BMW’s EVs have also been heavily incetivized recently with the iX having credits as high as $9500 and with dealers discounting more than 10 percent on average. https://www.bmwblog.com/2023/12/13/b...o-on-ev-sales/ I'm sure everyone is shocked at this news. Me, if you're going to buy a EV I hope you buy a quality car built in the USA. |
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We just bought an IX. Love ride even though the charging infrastructure isn’t built out in area. The dealer is just down the road and we are able to use one of its superchargers for free. Charging at home (level 2) works just fine. Time will tell if this purchase was a mistake but so far so good. My one recommendation is always have an ICE if needed.
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Safety Experts Worried About Electric Cars’ Weight 1,000 More Pounds = 47% Higher Chance of Dying A 2011 study by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that “controlling for own-vehicle weight, being hit by a vehicle that is 1,000 pounds heavier results in a 47% increase in the baseline fatality probability.” https://www.kbb.com/car-news/safety-...c-cars-weight/ |
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So would you rather have an collision with a Fiat 500 or a EV Hummer?
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I worry more about long distance LHD foreign lorries on motorways coming up behind you when there's a traffic hold up.
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It's true. I'd still have more faith in a lorrie driver vs a tradesman in a van or pickup truck making better choices on the road. The "legitimate" ones are professional drivers after all. Certified and tested at higher standards than your average soccer mom, plus their career depends on it. That being said, times have changed and there's more distractions out there for everyone. Someone once said they were watching the geotag filter feature on some social media app like snapchat or instagram, and the majority were from 401 transport truck drivers. |
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I just stopped in to see if this thread was finally dead...
I was wrong. |
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EV or no EV is a hot topic. I have friends swear to god the only car he/her will get is EV. Also I have friends after they have their first EVs, then get rid of the EV and they swear to god they will not buy another EV. lol
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