[BlueRidgeBMW]

I’m in the more cylinders, the better camp

[gblansten]

I see we get little fear this morning and a bit of Facebook. How's everyone doing?

[gblansten]

If things get really slow someone should post something from "shart guy".

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I see we get little fear this morning and a bit of Facebook. How's everyone doing?

Not bad, trying to stop being logical and been looking for another 3rd gen MX5 to replace my beater and how to convince the wife and kid that they ain't going on vacation
You?

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

This thread is deeply amusing as an exposition for those amongst us who suffer from crippling fears and anxieties.

Remember it is those who suffer from "crippling fears and anxieties" that the planets climate is burning that drives the EV Psychosis.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Of course one full day of driving your EV will not kill you. But driving for years is a different story

Problems solved, the most effective way to mitigate the effects of climate change is depopulation, I can't image a group of folks where a deleterious effects on reproduction will benefit all concerned.

[Equilibrandt]

Loved taking my morning coffee reading about some tinfoil hat dude who runs around with an RF receiver to protect his wife's acute 5G disorder. I'd love to see the specs on his $200 wideband receiver; I bet the fidelity is nothing short of dogwater.

As previously mentioned, what a shocking lack of understanding of RF in general (RF engineer, here) and microwaves specifically from someone acting like they're an expert in the field.

I'd bet simply burning a candle in your house a few times a week would boost your toxic load enough to absolutely slam whatever infinitesimally-small effect holding my 5G cell phone near my head a few times a day would have.

I'd love to see some source data on how much RF energy my buttcheeks absorb sitting on top of an EV's battery pack. Then compare that to the effect of the little bit of fumes I inhale as I let my F80 warm up in the morning.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Loved taking my morning coffee reading about some tinfoil hat dude who runs around with an RF receiver to protect his wife's acute 5G disorder. I'd love to see the specs on his $200 wideband receiver; I bet the fidelity is nothing short of dogwater.

As previously mentioned, what a shocking lack of understanding of RF in general (RF engineer, here) and microwaves specifically from someone acting like they're an expert in the field.

I'd bet simply burning a candle in your house a few times a week would boost your toxic load enough to absolutely slam whatever infinitesimally-small effect holding my 5G cell phone near my head a few times a day would have.

I'd love to see some source data on how much RF energy my buttcheeks absorb sitting on top of an EV's battery pack. Then compare that to the effect of the little bit of fumes I inhale as I let my F80 warm up in the morning.

Buy one?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078T2R64C...language=en_US

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by JimmyTheHand

Most microwaves use 6000 times (or higher) the power levels being quoted to cook food and the they work by water molecules absorbing the RF energy which means it heats up. The RF band which this happens is a quite narrow frequency band, so unless that meter is tuned to only filter that band, likely it is much lower power for the frequencies that can heat water. At that very low power levels chance of raising the temperature of skin is negligible, let alone deeper in body.

Most likely the RF power being measured is at a much lower frequency and is likely related to things like switch mode power supplies used to charge the battery - at this lower frequency the photons won't be harmful.

Heck, I'd say the seat heater mat alone would make a decent Farady shield all by itself let alone the sheet metal Floorplan to keep one's nads intact.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Buy one?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078T2R64C...language=en_US

Picking up from the spec

This meter reads RF and microwaves in the frequency range 20 MHz to 6 GHz. This includes most new 5G installations, but not experimental millimeter wave 5G. Only the total power level from all sources is displayed. No information regarding specific frequencies is displayed.

So likely that'll pickup everything from the local FM transmitter, your microwave, Wi-fi, any stray RF given off by the device and give you a reading of the total value - you'll have no idea whether the measurements are for each item.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Problems solved, the most effective way to mitigate the effects of climate change is depopulation, I can't image a group of folks where a deleterious effects on reproduction will benefit all concerned.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Heck, I'd say the seat heater mat alone would make a decent Farady shield all by itself let alone the sheet metal Floorplan to keep one's nads intact.

Depends on frequency - but for lower frequencies most likely which I suspect most of what is being measured

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Only the very best for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuxR3h1_j_k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUMI5spWeU

Wrong guy.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Remember it is those who suffer from "crippling fears and anxieties" that the planets climate is burning that drives the EV Psychosis.

Unfortunately, neuroses seem broadly applied to both ends of the spectrum. That EMF stuff ranks up there with the Zyklon B.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by JimmyTheHand

Picking up from the spec


So likely that'll pickup everything from the local FM transmitter, your microwave, Wi-fi, any stray RF given off by the device and give you a reading of the total value - you'll have no idea whether the measurements are for each item.

If you had one - you could actually test what your saying. I have "quiet" rooms in my house, and the unit absolutely sensitive enough to pick up smaller readings, but also "precise" enough to locate the direction of where it's coming from.

It basically one of the best units you can buy at the price point, before jumping up to more precise units at thousands. Claiming that "I'm picking up FM transmitters" sounds like someone who read a booklet looking for issues and not actual having experience with it.

I have a video of me testing the microwave, wifi and other devices in my house - it absolutely doesn't "pick up" random FM transmissions. Ya'll are WILD with these comments.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

If you had one - you could actually test what your saying. I have "quiet" rooms in my house, and the unit absolutely sensitive enough to pick up smaller readings, but also "precise" enough to locate the direction of where it's coming from.

It basically one of the best units you can buy at the price point, before jumping up to more precise units at thousands. Claiming that "I'm picking up FM transmitters" sounds like someone who read a booklet looking for issues and not actual having experience with it.

I have a video of me testing the microwave, wifi and other devices in my house - it absolutely doesn't "pick up" random FM transmissions. Ya'll are WILD with these comments.

Back in the 80s I was using equipment with costs around $500,000 to measure microwave equipment, I doubt I'd trust a $200 meter of that sort with no frequency tuning to tell me more than there is a bit of RF.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by JimmyTheHand

Back in the 80s I was using equipment with costs around $500,000 to measure microwave equipment, I doubt I'd trust a $200 meter of that sort with no frequency tuning to tell me more than there is a bit of RF.

Back in the 80s a VCR costs $200, and a TV cost over 1000 (before adjusted for inflation) A cell phone was thousands, and calculator hundreds.

You don't have to trust anything, but it seems like you trust all these products are safe without doing any research or testing for yourself. And since I have (and clearly you have not) you want to s**t over all the links, equipment and methodology used without providing anything of value.

[Equilibrandt]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Back in the 80s a VCR costs $200, and a TV cost over 1000 (before adjusted for inflation) A cell phone was thousands, and calculator hundreds.

You don't have to trust anything, but it seems like you trust all these products are safe without doing any research or testing for yourself. And since I have (and clearly you have not) you want to s**t over all the links, equipment and methodology used without providing anything of value.

Be sure to track down every RF source in your local area of operation. That neighbor's smart home system? Cut the wires in the night. The wifi-enabled EV charger? EMP it.

Hope you don't own a Fitbit. Maybe you have ceiling fans that use IR remotes or physical switches, not RF remotes. Be cautious of all remotes in the house, too, along with any video game systems, stereo receivers, or your DVR. Your dog might even have a ping-able microchip! Hope no one drives past your house with their blind-spot monitors emitting RF. Don't stand near any car as it parks or you might get splashed by its ultrasonic parking sensor's deathrays.

Take it from a licensed RF engineer, man. You can't escape simple RF bouncing through your windows from every which source, even if it's not 'high power'. Getting gaslit by the RF-equivalent of a Fisher Price children's phone is just as unhealthy as sitting on top of some EV batteries as every car around you washes you with RF from their blind spot systems, safety systems, and adaptive cruise control.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Be sure to track down every RF source in your local area of operation. That neighbor's smart home system? Cut the wires in the night. The wifi-enabled EV charger? EMP it.

I can walk up to my smart meter and see it peg the charts at the high end. Then walk outside near my neigbours house and pick up readings while in range of his wifi.

On the flipside, I can go turn off my wifi and go into an closet and get a low/no reading.

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Hope you don't own a Fitbit. Maybe you have ceiling fans that use IR remotes or physical switches, not RF remotes. Be cautious of all remotes in the house, too, along with any video game systems, stereo receivers, or your DVR. Your dog might even have a ping-able microchip! Hope no one drives past your house with their blind-spot monitors emitting RF. Don't stand near any car as it parks or you might get splashed by its ultrasonic parking sensor's deathrays.

Good news, I don't have any of those nor do I have those issues.

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Take it from a licensed RF engineer, man. You can't escape simple RF bouncing through your windows from every which source, even if it's not 'high power'. Getting gaslit by the RF-equivalent of a Fisher Price children's phone is just as unhealthy as sitting on top of some EV batteries as every car around you washes you with RF from their blind spot systems, safety systems, and adaptive cruise control.

Gaslit? Again, did I mention that my wife (and sister) have EMF sensitivity? Do you know what licensed Engineers say? Get a RF meter, test it yourself and try to mitigate it by either turning it off, or using something else entirely.

You know what's funny - people who have one ZERO research on any of this, telling people who have tested it (including the videos I posted with much more expensive equipment than mine) that there is nothing wrong.
I'm not stopping you by from putting microwaves in your brain - but don't mock me because I don't want to.

[AmuroRay]

I just noticed - these two guys were located in CA - I'm not surprised they would tear down any type of concerns that effect their precious EVs.

For everyone else - I wouldn't drive an EV, and sure as hell wouldn't be in one while it's charging.

[RM7]

How does he use the internet if he’s so afraid of EM radiation?

[M5Rick]

I'll say a thing about mobile phones in that when it is on me it is switched OFF, I turn it on say every hour to catch any messages then it goes off again and in the car it goes in the glove box switched on that I can still make or receive a call hands free.