[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

The best thing I saw the DOT do was a "safety car" in the late 1970's where the front structure (fender wells) were injected with energy-absorbing polystyrene foam. IIRC it was a Pinto (yeah, I know...), maybe a Vega, that the DOT crashed into a Cadillac (head-on collision). The slow-motion replay of the crash showed the foam-filled car crumple up then spring back to shape as the energy dissipated from the foam.

I Googled it and can't find any reference to it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARP...allenge_(2004)

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by gblansten

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARP...allenge_(2004)

How does a car flip over "in the starting area"?

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

How does a car flip over "in the starting area"?

Definitely funny

[Car-Addicted]

EV Sales Crash 16.4% In Germany, But That’s Nothing Compared To Tesla’s Losses In First Half
07/05/2024



EV sales in Germany fell 16.4% in the first half of 2024, with Tesla sales plummeting 41.6%.
Overall car sales rose 5.4%, with brands like BYD experiencing significant growth (427%).
Luxury carmakers like Audi and Mercedes saw sales decline, while budget brands like Seat thrived.
Germany is the heart of a European car industry that is slowly switching to electric power, but domestic buyers are increasingly turning their noses up at EVs. Sales of battery vehicles slumped by an average of 16.4 percent in the first six months of 2024, but Tesla’s terrible numbers almost make that look like progress.
Tesla’s German sales slumped to 21,249 from January to June, a drop of 41.6 percent compared with the same period last year. Drilling down to look at just the June figures reveals that sales slid 42.2 percent to 4,648 units, putting it behind MG, which shifted 5,158, though not all of them were EVs.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...lf/ar-BB1pqfhB

“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”
― Abraham Lincoln

[eugenebmw]

I think BMW Canada is having a hard time moving their EV. They have this kind of leasing rate since March this year. Very attractive but no thank you for me

[gonzo]

^
Pay me to be seen in either of those things and we can talk.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I think BMW Canada is having a hard time moving their EV. They have this kind of leasing rate since March this year. Very attractive but no thank you for me

With looks like that AWA EV PU there's no wonder at that.
I wouldn't even have one of those for free but anyone offering a new M5 hybrid, any colour without the carbon roof then I'll take it off their hands

[M5Rick]

''EV's are massively inconvenient compared to regular cars'

[M5Rick]

Someone said ''EV's are a great way of turning £ 55000 to NET ZERO''

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

I think BMW Canada is having a hard time moving their EV. They have this kind of leasing rate since March this year. Very attractive but no thank you for me

I'm just saying:

[Car-Addicted]

Hell is beginning freezing over!
NASCAR officially rolls out EV in Chicago



The car – ABB NASCAR EV Prototype – was developed between NASCAR and its three manufacturer partners. NASCAR engineers involved in the build were also responsible for the Next Gen and Garage 56 projects. And the vehicle shares similarities to the Next Gen car, as well as the Garage 56 project from last season, with the body sitting on a modified Next Gen chassis.
The ABB NASCAR EV Prototype has three STARD UHP 6-Phase motors (one in the rear, two in the rear; all-wheel drive) that supply power directly to all four tires, which were specially designed Goodyear tires. There is a 78-kWh liquid-cooled battery, and the tunable powertrain can produce 1,000 kW at peak power.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Hell is beginning freezing over!
NASCAR officially rolls out EV in Chicago



The car – ABB NASCAR EV Prototype – was developed between NASCAR and its three manufacturer partners. NASCAR engineers involved in the build were also responsible for the Next Gen and Garage 56 projects. And the vehicle shares similarities to the Next Gen car, as well as the Garage 56 project from last season, with the body sitting on a modified Next Gen chassis.
The ABB NASCAR EV Prototype has three STARD UHP 6-Phase motors (one in the rear, two in the rear; all-wheel drive) that supply power directly to all four tires, which were specially designed Goodyear tires. There is a 78-kWh liquid-cooled battery, and the tunable powertrain can produce 1,000 kW at peak power.

So, five (5) 40-minute recharge resting times so the drivers can get a snack, refresh, use the facilities, and walk their dogs? Add in any rain delays and that makes for a long race.

More advertisement time for TV!

[Condorll]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Hell is beginning freezing over!
NASCAR officially rolls out EV in Chicago



The car – ABB NASCAR EV Prototype – was developed between NASCAR and its three manufacturer partners. NASCAR engineers involved in the build were also responsible for the Next Gen and Garage 56 projects. And the vehicle shares similarities to the Next Gen car, as well as the Garage 56 project from last season, with the body sitting on a modified Next Gen chassis.
The ABB NASCAR EV Prototype has three STARD UHP 6-Phase motors (one in the rear, two in the rear; all-wheel drive) that supply power directly to all four tires, which were specially designed Goodyear tires. There is a 78-kWh liquid-cooled battery, and the tunable powertrain can produce 1,000 kW at peak power.

30 minute break midrace for a recharge?

[Efthreeoh]

Liquid-cooled battery. Sounds really cool!

ALL EV HAVE LIQUID COOLED BATTERIES. 🤣🤣🤣

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Condorll

30 minute break midrace for a recharge?

So I Googledit. 50 laps on a .526 mile track. 26 miles. LOL.

The Daytona 500...
26 miles x 90% = 23 miles first charge, then
23 miles x 80% = 19 miles second charge, and so on...

I come up with 27 charge events, 26 in pit lane @ 80% and 1 in the paddock @ 100% at 15 minutes per. So, 26 charges is 6.5 hours charging time just to go 500 miles at race speed. Add in the actual lap times to go 500 miles at race speed is another 3.5 hours. So, 10 hours total race time. (without crashes).

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Hell is beginning freezing over!
NASCAR officially rolls out EV in Chicago



The car – ABB NASCAR EV Prototype – was developed between NASCAR and its three manufacturer partners. NASCAR engineers involved in the build were also responsible for the Next Gen and Garage 56 projects. And the vehicle shares similarities to the Next Gen car, as well as the Garage 56 project from last season, with the body sitting on a modified Next Gen chassis.
The ABB NASCAR EV Prototype has three STARD UHP 6-Phase motors (one in the rear, two in the rear; all-wheel drive) that supply power directly to all four tires, which were specially designed Goodyear tires. There is a 78-kWh liquid-cooled battery, and the tunable powertrain can produce 1,000 kW at peak power.

Can you imagine how much fire apparatus and firefighters would be required for a multi-car pileup?

[M5Rick]

An EV NASCAR racer, I'll pass on that.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Can you imagine how much fire apparatus and firefighters would be required for a multi-car pileup?

Not to mention @ 4,000 lbs. dry. Time for new fences and guardrails.

[Car-Addicted]

Geely’s New EV Battery Claims To Last A Million Km And Offer Better Fire Protection
July 2, 2024
The new battery can even retain 90.54% of its capacity in temperatures below -30°C
The new battery is 40% shorter than a traditional blade battery.
Geely submerged it in salt water and even fired a bullet at the battery during testing.
The new cells can be charged 3,500 times.
Geely has unveiled a new lithium-iron-phosphate battery for EVs, which it says will be good for driving 1 million kilometers (a little over 620,000 miles) and last as long as 50 years. It also charges quicker, works better in cold environments, and can withstand some serious abuse.
The Chinese automaker says that the battery can be charged 3,500 times, equivalent to 1 million kilometers of driving, all with “minimal impact to battery range.”
Tests conducted with short- and long-blade batteries with the same capacity reveal the short-form pack charges quicker. Whereas it took the long-blade battery 26 minutes to charge from 10-80%, the new short-blade battery needed just 17 minutes and 4 seconds.
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/07/ge...re-protection/

[Car-Addicted]

Maserati Now Offers A Fully Electric Powerboat
The Maserati Tridente is a luxury powerboat with a fully electric powertrain.
The 34-foot vessel has a large sundeck with room for 10 people and a small cabin.
The zero-emission powertrain makes 592 hp (441 kW / 600 PS), allowing a top speed of 40 knots (46 mph).
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/07/ma...ric-powerboat/

That's a hard pass for me.

[M5Rick]

EV: Eventual Vanquishment

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Maserati Now Offers A Fully Electric Powerboat
The Maserati Tridente is a luxury powerboat with a fully electric powertrain.
The 34-foot vessel has a large sundeck with room for 10 people and a small cabin.
The zero-emission powertrain makes 592 hp (441 kW / 600 PS), allowing a top speed of 40 knots (46 mph).
https://www.carscoops.com/2024/07/ma...ric-powerboat/

That's a hard pass for me.

Needs that Geely battery. For when the boat sinks...