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This entire post is talking about a dme product and product they have called flash abck where you can flash the dme back to the original state before you tuned the car. ( that would of solved your problem ) I figured you may of used it since you were commenting on this post. But I guess not lol.
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If a car has been flagged like yours (bummer) then that ship has sailed however I think the piggyback application would be to make a back up of your DME, install the piggyback, and then prior to service or dealer visit remove your piggyback and "flashback" in turn mitigating your chances of getting flagged. This function does not require an unlock with the M-Link, at least that's what I gathered from the user manual. But still NOT for 21+ nothing works on M-Link 21+ meaning not even flashback without an unlock Anyone if I've said anything wrong let me know and I will edit etc don't want to be spreading bad info Last edited by RTPenland; 08-08-2023 at 09:26 AM.. Reason: added 21+ comment |
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Will the (cheaper?) plastic version be worth the wait? What is the ETA?
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Also called them and co firmed that this is the case. No backing up for us post 2021
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Called them and confirmed, this is not possible for post 2021.
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I am contemplating getting it becsuse I want to tune but I am also under warranty
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Apologies, been stuck at the office all day yesterday shipping out orders, however getting back to the boards to respond to a few missed questions. If we missed your product-related question, please just tag us or send PM. Or better yet email/call our office.
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Correct. This week we will be adding a license transfer option to our site. This will allow for the "used" M-Link device to be unlinked from the initial vehicle and used on different vehicle. The concept behind this is to make M-Link as resellable as any other hardware performance part you see on the second-hand market, however, that is not an advisable option for customers that are looking to unlock multiple vehicles that they own. For those cases, I would suggest you reach out directly to us. |
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You mentioned it only gets flagged when BMW scans it? Or does it get flagged in the car's DME and then BMW gets it when they scan it? Either way, they won't know anything until they plug into the car and load you into their database, right? What about for smog purposes? California smog check also checks for tampered tuned cars by comparing ECU/DME checksum numbers against a database of known stock BMW checksum numbers. Will a unlocked and tuned DME trigger a car to not pass smog check? Also, does BMW share data with the state on flagged cars? This is a potentially more serious issue as BMW will deny warranty on a modified car but not passing smog check means you can not drive the car at all on public roads.
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Regarding the other part of the same question, if you have a piggyback, can it be removed and the car return to "pre-piggyback" state? Or is it now permanently flagged in the car and just waiting for BMW to find out with ISTA?
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Missed that point. Yes, that is the beauty of flashback! As long as the car hasn’t been connected to the dealer network, you can remove piggyback, flashback, and go for service. Of course, if your MAP/waste gate connectors are all broken(physically), bmw can use that to flag you as well, but that is unrelated to black box data.
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I've thought about having someone update my software (outside of a dealership) but don't know if that'll clear logs. |
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Unfortuanlty, flashing to stock using OBD only restores partial memeory, and does nothing for the “blackbox” sectors, where you performance data is stored actually. Even with stock flash, when you go to dealer, there will be a minimum of internal flag after initial scan done by ista. It is 50/50 on weather or not your invoice will say “flagged” as user mentioned before, but internally you wil be flagged. And since you don’t have image of your DME before flashing, there is nothing that can be done just yet.
However, in our upcoming M-link updates, we will will be introducing Flashback Pro feature that will “virginize” the blackbox data even though you have been tuned before. The only limitation there is that you must have never taken the car to dealer after performing flash/piggyback and before doing the flashback pro. (If internal flag is set, nothing can be done, period). More on this wil be discussed in the upcoming months, however you might benefit from that feature. In your current case, I would recommend having your firmware updated outside of dealer or just doing OTA update if available. |
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Quick question regarding the section where you specify that the unlocks are limited to “a single vehicle”, i currently have 2 vehicles a 2019 330i and a 2020 m340i, my 340 is currently down getting some mods put on and a pure 800 so it’ll be down for sometime. I was planning on unlocking and tuning the 330i in a meantime, but is there a way for me to swap the car from the 330i to the m340i? Is it similar to the cobb days where you had to marry the device to the vehicle? or how does that work?
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I see a lot of value in being able to purchase multiple licenses (stacking) and being able to use the unit on multiple vehicles. I personally am less worried about the onboard backup of the files if I can just store them offline and copy back if/when I need to restore. The concept of the unit being "mated" to a vehicle has less value to me personally as I own multiple BMW vehicles supported by this tool. Storing multiple devices and then having to keep track of which one is for which vehicle is sort of clumsy. Looking forward to getting mine and using it though.
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