[VipinLJ]

Originally Posted by blackcoffee

The real issue here is whether the M340i is worth the up charge over the already excellent 330i. I think it is.

I agree. The M340i is definitely worth the premium over the 330i.

[Merami fan]

Originally Posted by VipinLJ

I agree. The M340i is definitely worth the premium over the 330i.

For the performance, yes. You have to spend serious money for serious performance (on new cars especially) and the B58 is amazing. But a 330i is already "too fast" to push remotely hard on public roads. The G20 is fine in base form, but stiffer suspension + bigger wheels and it's not comfortable enough to daily for many people.

[VipinLJ]

Originally Posted by Merami fan

For the performance, yes. You have to spend serious money for serious performance (on new cars especially) and the B58 is amazing. But a 330i is already "too fast" to push remotely hard on public roads. The G20 is fine in base form, but stiffer suspension + bigger wheels and it's not comfortable enough to daily for many people.

I agree. But then that’s the same with the C300/C43AMG and A4/S4. Between the 330i, M340i and C43 AMG (as per the title of the thread), I still think the M340i is the best amongst the trio. Does not mean the 330i and C43 are bad. Quite the opposite actually.

[RoyB]

Originally Posted by Merami fan

For the performance, yes. You have to spend serious money for serious performance (on new cars especially) and the B58 is amazing. But a 330i is already "too fast" to push remotely hard on public roads. The G20 is fine in base form, but stiffer suspension + bigger wheels and it's not comfortable enough to daily for many people.

I disagree. I think the M340 drives great as a daily. If anything, the 330i is a little soft.

[3erMan]

Originally Posted by VipinLJ

I agree. But then that’s the same with the C300/C43AMG and A4/S4. Between the 330i, M340i and C43 AMG (as per the title of the thread), I still think the M340i is the best amongst the trio. Does not mean the 330i and C43 are bad. Quite the opposite actually.

Originally Posted by RoyB

I disagree. I think the M340 drives great as a daily. If anything, the 330i is a little soft.

Out of curiosity, what, if any, difference exists between the 330i and M340i suspensions, assuming both have M Sport package with the optional M Adaptive dampers? Are there technical differences in the hardware or configurations?

[EXE46]

This thread is becoming ridiculous. Boggles the mind that people find M340i not comfortable enough as a daily without adaptive suspension and then we wonder why BMW didn't make it more hardcore. The majority of M cars aka M2/M3/M4 etc are use as daily commuters despite what some here may have you believe. There's a minuscule demographic that actually tracks the real M cars.

Therefore, if M cars are being used as daily commuters. Why would the M340i be overkill when it's nowhere as hardcore as real M cars.

[vincechase]

Originally Posted by WXdrivefun

Looking into the following video review from throttle house below:

The video mentioned that one reviewer they would take the 330i M-Sport over the m340i as there was not a significant difference moving up to the larger engine with the price.

The video also mentioned in the similar premium price range they would select the C43 over the M340i, because of more driving theater and drama on the c43. However, I think the m340i can accomplish similar driving theater and drama with M-Performance exhaust installed.

So to conclude, is your feedback and opinion similar to that of review from Throttle House? Do you guys feel any other criticism?

Finally, has anyone actually test drove 330i with M-Sport package, Adaptive suspension and summer performance staggered tires with LSD against the m340i with Adaptive suspension and summer performance staggered tires?

And what are your opinions/first initial impressions?

Honestly it's all up to you. They both drive great. If you looking for endless power go for the 340 it's beast AF. If you are more chill but want a sporty ride with all the other dynamics then the 330 sport is for you. I have the 330 m sport fully loaded. I am not content lmao.

But it is an amazing car. Sounds great as well. And loads of performance but you wouldn't want to go against any car to crazy

[HyeM340i]

Originally Posted by EXE46

This thread is becoming ridiculous. Boggles the mind that people find M340i not comfortable enough as a daily without adaptive suspension and then we wonder why BMW didn't make it more hardcore. The majority of M cars aka M2/M3/M4 etc are use as daily commuters despite what some here may have you believe. There's a minuscule demographic that actually tracks the real M cars.

Therefore, if M cars are being used as daily commuters. Why would the M340i be overkill when it's nowhere as hardcore as real M cars.

I have the fixed M sport suspension on my M340i and it does get pretty harsh not gonna lie. But I actually like that.

[darknemesis]

Originally Posted by HyeM340i

I have the fixed M sport suspension on my M340i and it does get pretty harsh not gonna lie. But I actually like that.

Again, depends on the individual, I have fixed suspension as well on my M340xi and I never felt it being harsh in my daily driving.

[Casone238]

I love the feeling of my M340i it feels great and very comfortable. For those of you that complain about harsh go drive a C43 for a week lol. The car is can get very stiff and leans more towards the harsh side but nothing to make it uncomfortable for long drives imo. Those those of you complaining about the ride quality in the M340 ya should of gotten a 540i

[Rocket455]

Originally Posted by WXdrivefun

The video mentioned that one reviewer they would take the 330i M-Sport over the m340i as there was not a significant difference moving up to the larger engine with the price.

Though no one can dispute spec sheets, it ultimately comes down to what the individual is looking for at a particular price point. It's not all about getting more power and better handling for everyone; there are tons of people out there who would happily take a loaded 330i over a base M340i, or a loaded M340i over a base M3. This becomes even more apparent if the price points happen to be within a stone's throw of one another (through lease incentives, sales specials and whatnot). I recently drove a loaner 330i while the M340i was at the dealer's getting a CarBahn flash, and I could not believe how much torque was available in the little 4 banger so early on in the powerband. As much as I absolutely love the power in the M340i (even more vicious now with the flash), the 330i smashed my expectations. I remember thinking to myself that had I any seat time in a 330i, I would have actively considered leasing one over the M340i if the price point made sense. Again, 2 really different cars, but if you don't live your life a quarter-mile at a time, then the power and handling you sacrifice for a lower monthly cost makes all the sense in the world if the car caters well to all your other needs.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by darknemesis

Again, depends on the individual, I have fixed suspension as well on my M340xi and I never felt it being harsh in my daily driving.

Well it also depends on your wheel size; if you take the biggest one available, I can see how the fixed M suspension might be a little harsh...

[ubchariot]

I watched this review last year as well and still decided to order my m340i.

They chose c43 over m340i simply because of the exhaust sound plus harsh shift kickback. But that's not really about performance. Track test/ drag race can show you that m340i definitely wins in terms of performance over the c43.


If you want more drama, you might want to put on the m performance exhaust. It's very loud and definitely adds a lot of fun to your driving. C43's exhaust sounds pretty civilized comparing to the m performance exhaust...

Anyway, both are very good cars. You won't regret after choosing anyone.

[Casone238]

Originally Posted by ubchariot

I watched this review last year as well and still decided to order my m340i.

They chose c43 over m340i simply because of the exhaust sound plus harsh shift kickback. But that's not really about performance. Track test/ drag race can show you that m340i definitely wins in terms of performance over the c43.


If you want more drama, you might want to put on the m performance exhaust. It's very loud and definitely adds a lot of fun to your driving. C43's exhaust sounds pretty civilized comparing to the m performance exhaust...

Anyway, both are very good cars. You won't regret after choosing anyone.

This is facts! My M340i with the MPE trumps my C43 exhaust with the AMG PE

[rodc271]

Originally Posted by 3erMan

Out of curiosity, what, if any, difference exists between the 330i and M340i suspensions, assuming both have M Sport package with the optional M Adaptive dampers? Are there technical differences in the hardware or configurations?

Would also be interested in this question?
I thought suspension etc. identical between the two.

[A6bullet]

Originally Posted by 3erMan

Out of curiosity, what, if any, difference exists between the 330i and M340i suspensions, assuming both have M Sport package with the optional M Adaptive dampers? Are there technical differences in the hardware or configurations?

So I had a quick look at the real OEM info, and I dont think there are any real differences between the parts. The only thing I saw where different part numbers for stuff like drive shaft and some suspension components, which I think is due to the higher power and higher weight.

I think this thread is little misinformed.

I have a fully loaded 330i. I am a previous M car owner and track enthusiast. The new G20 330i delivers on every single aspect of a proper car in every way except maybe that it does not have a ridiculous amount of power. Do I miss the power? Duh yes, it's fun. But i'm not racing people at red lights so there's that.

I got the staggered setup with MPS4s and this car has an incredible amount of grip in the corners and the steering inspires confidence and communicates well enough. The balance is pure BMW, the car just rotates with the curve, very easy to place even though it grew in size.

You know what's great also? 900 Km range for road trips while still having 300 ft/lbs of torque to overtake at any speed.

[EXE46]

What's great to me is having the means to afford a new 911 S but I can't afford that yet. So for now will enjoy the lowly M340i lol.

[coladin]

Originally Posted by ubchariot

I watched this review last year as well and still decided to order my m340i.

They chose c43 over m340i simply because of the exhaust sound plus harsh shift kickback. But that's not really about performance. Track test/ drag race can show you that m340i definitely wins in terms of performance over the c43.


If you want more drama, you might want to put on the m performance exhaust. It's very loud and definitely adds a lot of fun to your driving. C43's exhaust sounds pretty civilized comparing to the m performance exhaust...

Anyway, both are very good cars. You won't regret after choosing anyone.

I think they said the 340 is the better car in the end...they just like the thrill factor of the C43.

I think there will be regret, though, based on how much time you will drive your car and what the roads are like in your neck of the woods.

I test drove all three on a bumpy, uneven road, and the M340 was in another league from the S5 Sportback and C43 that I compared it to. I literally didn't car about anything else.

S5 was bad, and the C43 was better , the 2020, compared to my totaled C43. I dreaded getting into my C43 as a daily driver. The ride was so bad that it made me beg for winter, and put on the 18s. Coupled to the fact that AMG still insist on mounting Contis on it, absolutely garbage tires, is a mystery to me.

I liked my C43 interior, but the exhaust got annoying, and the car squeaked and creaked and the center console was a child's squeaky toy when pushed side to side.

[WXdrivefun]

To follow-up again with the drag race between the S4, M340i and C43:

Again the hosts both quoted in timeframe 9m50s they would take the C43 for driving for engagement over the M340i, despite being faster than the other two..
Sigh...

[Graaf_Autowerks]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I actually enjoy these guys' videos - I find them entertaining. For the most part I think they're pretty accurate with their review. The 3 series is the best overall car. I cross shopped the S4, C43 and M340i and came away with the following thoughts:

- S4 was a decent car but just wasn't fun. It was a very muted experience.
- C43 sounded great but it was a bit TOO harsh, and that interior is getting long in the tooth.
- M340i is the best overall car in performance, tech, interior etc.

That being said, it's definitely a matter of personal preference and you'll simply have to test drive them to decide for yourself. Many people find the power in the 330i more than adequate (and for the most part, it is).

I personally found the power in the M340i simply intoxicating, and was coming from a 400 hp Q50 RS, so I couldn't see myself going so far down in power with the 330i. I also live out in the suburbs with lots of large, open roads and highway, so I'm able to enjoy the power that the M340i offers.

Also coming from a 2018 Q50RS, which was no slouch, but after sitting in the m340i for a test drive I was absolutely sold.

Personally the C43 aesthetic isn't for me. If I was going for AMG it would be a GT or E63.

Audis always look like a rebadged Jetta to me.

[Casone238]

Originally Posted by Graaf_Autowerks

Also coming from a 2018 Q50RS, which was no slouch, but after sitting in the m340i for a test drive I was absolutely sold.

Personally the C43 aesthetic isn't for me. If I was going for AMG it would be a GT or E63.

Audis always look like a rebadged Jetta to me.

I agree with you on the Audis look. The C43 is a fun car and those pops that come out the exhaust is exciting. But the day I test drove the M340 and jumped back in my C43 instantly I knew the C43 was the inferior car. With AMG idk because if I was looking at E63 I'll probably go with the M5 instead AMG GT or M8 ? based on looks I'll go AMG GT over the M8. I will say I like the GLE coupe more then any bmw crossover in the line up

[Graaf_Autowerks]

Originally Posted by Casone238

I agree with you on the Audis look. The C43 is a fun car and those pops that come out the exhaust is exciting. But the day I test drove the M340 and jumped back in my C43 instantly I knew the C43 was the inferior car. With AMG idk because if I was looking at E63 I'll probably go with the M5 instead AMG GT or M8 ? based on looks I'll go AMG GT over the M8. I will say I like the GLE coupe more then any bmw crossover in the line up

Fair points, I would agree personally, just saying if I was forced to go with an AMG, lol...

You're right about the GLE coupe, it's definitely better looking than current BMW offerings.