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      09-01-2020, 02:43 PM   #133
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This really is the end of an era.

I feel like the ludicrously fast 0-60 times this will hit due to X-Drive is there to mask over the fact the new M3 has lost its driver appeal, good looks and is going to sound turd. The only people this car appeals to are Audi-Heads who brag about 0-60 times because that's the only fun they can have.
Maybe you just don't want to get one and have to change your username on the forums...lol.
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      09-02-2020, 03:28 PM   #134
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I for one love it. The more I look at it the more I like it. From some angles it reminds me of my old E90. I'm waiting to see how it drives. If the steering and handling are there, it's my next car, in some sort of Silver color and RWD.
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      09-03-2020, 08:23 AM   #135
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Yes - Looking better cant't wait to see this in person.

That said my 3 disappointments in order are:
1 - front grill design
2 - overall size
3 - electric handbrake

Would I daily drive as a 3 yr lease - Yes
Would I keep this long term in my garage - No

Not having much enthusiasm for G80 vs every other generation of M3. G80 is faster but seems less sporty and focused if that makes any sense. The difference between M3 and M5 is so small now I'd rather have the better looking and V8 M5 for this generation.
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Yes - Looking better cant't wait to see this in person.

That said my 3 disappointments in order are:
1 - front grill design
2 - overall size
3 - electric handbrake

Would I daily drive as a 3 yr lease - Yes
Would I keep this long term in my garage - No

Not having much enthusiasm for G80 vs every other generation of M3. G80 is faster but seems less sporty and focused if that makes any sense. The difference between M3 and M5 is so small now I'd rather have the better looking and V8 M5 for this generation.
Agreed on all, except I prefer to keep cars long term with the hope that it turns out cheaper than a lease.

The difference between an M3 and an M5 is small? I hope not. I haven't driven the M5, but I'm not that excited about a big heavy car that goes fast in a straight line. The baseline for me is the M2. The M3 has to be close to the M2 in terms of handling and fun.
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Agreed on all, except I prefer to keep cars long term with the hope that it turns out cheaper than a lease.

The difference between an M3 and an M5 is small? I hope not. I haven't driven the M5, but I'm not that excited about a big heavy car that goes fast in a straight line. The baseline for me is the M2. The M3 has to be close to the M2 in terms of handling and fun.
That's my point new M3 is too big for track or tight twisty roads - get an M2 or might as well get the M5 for boulevard cruising and straight line races.
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That's my point new M3 is too big for track or tight twisty roads - get an M2 or might as well get the M5 for boulevard cruising and straight line races.
The F80 M3 is 184" long. The G80 I have read is 5" longer (not 100% sure) so it will be 189" long.

That is a 2.7% increase in length. I don't see that as a substantial difference in terms of attacking the twisties. I am an intermediate level track driver and I certainly could be wrong but I am mostly concerned about weight changes.

The car has grown exactly a foot (the E46 was 187") in 16 years. Could be worse I suppose.
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      09-03-2020, 12:32 PM   #139
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That's my point new M3 is too big for track or tight twisty roads - get an M2 or might as well get the M5 for boulevard cruising and straight line races.
The F80 M3 is 184" long. The G80 I have read is 5" longer (not 100% sure) so it will be 189" long.

That is a 2.7% increase in length. I don't see that as a substantial difference in terms of attacking the twisties. I am an intermediate level track driver and I certainly could be wrong but I am mostly concerned about weight changes.

The car has grown exactly a foot (the E46 was 187") in 16 years. Could be worse I suppose.
Yeah interesting. Do you want one car that does it all but is a tweener or would u rather have a smaller more focused car (even if never tracked) or a comfortable cruiser and stoplight animal like an M5. Both ? One of each but not stuck in the middle is better in my book but I'm sure others would disagree.
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Yeah interesting. Do you want one car that does it all but is a tweener or would u rather have a smaller more focused car (even if never tracked) or a comfortable cruiser and stoplight animal like an M5. Both ? One of each but not stuck in the middle is better in my book but I'm sure others would disagree.
You hit the nail on the head. I hope the M3 is a tweener and not a boat.
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You hit the nail on the head. I hope the M3 is a tweener and not a boat.
I dunno, I feel the G80 is gonna be a bit on the bigger and heavier side unless they decide to use a lot of CF to help make it lighter than the F80. The F80 was a good tweener since the E90 was a bit small for a sedan. Tho the E92 was the perfect size for a mid size coupe. Wasn't the F80 the first time they made the newer car lighter than it's predecessor? Hopefully that's in the cards for the G80 as well.
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