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      04-23-2021, 02:02 PM   #111
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I think these early effort EVs will age really badly. The designers are desperately hanging on to fossile fuel design elements (grilles / exhausts / air intakes) because they don't have the vision to draw a car without them. It's a bit embarrassing imo. Even more weird is that BMW have picked this time, a time of rapid transition from fossile to electric, to introduce a range-spanning huge grille. A grille they apparently want to build their whole design around. I don't get it.

I think it looks really cool on the new M cars, don't get me wrong. It's all the other cars it looks stupid on. But on an EV it's even worse, it sticks out like a sore thumb. In a few years cars won't have grilles and BMW will need to go back to the drawing board again and find a new core element. It's incredibly short sighted.
I’m with you. Why not stick with the i3/i8 grille? They were simply as they should be on an EV, much smaller than pure ICE.
Nevertheless, the M-Sport trim is a bit better imo. Let’s see it in the flesh.
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      04-23-2021, 02:20 PM   #112
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This is not M-sport. Doesn't look like the white car.
Yeah I know. The headline of my post wasn't mine. I think the admins did a mistake
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      04-23-2021, 03:29 PM   #113
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Mostly the new frontpage headline ("More Looks at BMW i4 M Sport Package") in conjunction with a non-M-Sport image is misleading
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      04-23-2021, 04:37 PM   #114
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Hmm the nw 2022 440i might be the winner unless that’s the same big grill hidden underneath.

https://www.motor1.com/news/503199/b...ies-spy-video/
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      04-23-2021, 04:53 PM   #115
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Hmm the nw 2022 440i might be the winner unless that’s the same big grill hidden underneath.

https://www.motor1.com/news/503199/b...ies-spy-video/
Of course it has the same grille, it's obvious right there in the video thumbnail...
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      04-23-2021, 05:41 PM   #116
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Of course it has the same grille, it's obvious right there in the video thumbnail...
I thought that too but why would you stick a license plate over an area that isn’t hard to actually attach it to then drive it hard on a track? Seems odd to me, but who knows.
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Of course it has the same grille, it's obvious right there in the video thumbnail...
I thought that too but why would you stick a license plate over an area that isn’t hard to actually attach it to then drive it hard on a track? Seems odd to me, but who knows.
Its the same grill as the 4er. There's no question about it.
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      04-23-2021, 08:47 PM   #118
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They need to get rid of all the stupid blue color highlights on all of their EV vehicles. They should blend in, look like regular cars and not scream "Look at me, I'm a BMW EV Car!"
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They need to get rid of all the stupid blue color highlights on all of their EV vehicles. They should blend in, look like regular cars and not scream "Look at me, I'm a BMW EV Car!"
Blue accents are option, right? I think in iX those are.
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Blue accents are option, right? I think in iX those are.
I think blue accents are standard and the black accents are an option as it is on the iX3
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Blue accents are option, right? I think in iX those are.
Just choose shadow line. You can see it at the ix configuration page. Then all blue trims are black

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      04-24-2021, 08:02 AM   #122
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https://www.motor1.com/news/503199/b...ies-spy-video/
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Seriously... we’re still talking about grilles? Years after the concept car was first shown? It ain’t gonna shrink, not even with the LCI. BMW went all in and they are not about to back down.
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      04-24-2021, 08:53 AM   #124
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Just choose shadow line. You can see it at the ix configuration page. Then all blue trims are black
Shadow line would be my choice. Additionally outlining the front grille in black rather than the chrome makes it less pronounced to my eye.
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New picture revealing a little bit more of the interior

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I agree with all the comments regarding the grille and how it deviates too far from the concept vehicle. The concept looks so futuristic and proper for an EV. It's a shame they couldn't use that front end on the production car. My guess is this was purely a strategic move to ensure they don't immediately make all the ICE vehicles look outdated by comparison. It would just be too much of a visual leap, and as a result, a lot of folks might find themselves "in between" wanting the futuristic looks of the i4 (but not quite ready due to range, charging, etc.) while also not wanting to invest $50k+ on a traditional ICE BMW that might be out of style in another year or two. Just a theory, but in the end, I think they chose to stick with their recent design language to mitigate risk in losing sales and to stay consistent with their recent design decisions. I can't imagine it had anything to do with front crash or pedestrian safety standards in this particular case.
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I was hyped when I saw the i4 concept expecting to see much of it in the production model (which isn't the case). I'm thinking the 2021 i430 is a much nicer looking alternative (save being an EV).

I'll wait until I see the entire i4 in June, but my enthusiasm has waned considerably.
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With 20" styling 794M and a slight drop.
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Not going to lie, the i4 looks really good. Makes me want to consider trading in my 330e to get it
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So I ran across this video. Not much new discussed except for the pricing (2:30) of the video. $80K starting MSRP

Also there were some interior shots of a test drive (1:43) and the interior looked rather mundane compared to the Concept (again the 85% being carried forward to production model is beginning to look more like 50-60% )




@ $80K I'd have to look look at the model S w/ the 112 (412 vs. 300) mile range advantage
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      04-29-2021, 01:46 PM   #131
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So I ran across this video. Not much new discussed except for the pricing (2:30) of the video. $80K starting MSRP

Also there were some interior shots of a test drive (1:43) and the interior looked rather mundane compared to the Concept (again the 85% being carried forward to production model is beginning to look more like 50-60% )




@ $80K I'd have to look look at the model S w/ the 112 (412 vs. 300) mile range advantage
I don't think that the MRSP is going to be $80k. The M4 Competition costs $75k in the US, so why should anybody buy an i4 instead? This makes no sense to me.

In Germany the iX3 costs around €73k with nearly full equipment. So i think the entry level i4 will cost far below under €70k in our country. They have to compete with the Telsa Model 3, so they have to go on the market at an attractive price too.
For Comparison: A full equiped Model 3 Performance costs €63k in Germany.
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According to a official comment from bmwi on Instagram we will get lots of new info in the coming weeks

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