[PaPaDrew G30]

Originally Posted by Faris Ahmed

What is tu2? Engine variant?

If it follows the B58 out of the newest 7 series and X5/7 it will have port injection from the factory. Being that is would be the TU2 of the current motor, it very well could be a 6 port turbo with port injection. The before mentioned B58 in the X5/7 and seven series is not a 6 port turbo.

[Faris Ahmed]

Originally Posted by PaPaDrew G30

If it follows the B58 out of the newest 7 series and X5/7 it will have port injection from the factory. Being that is would be the TU2 of the current motor, it very well could be a 6 port turbo with port injection. The before mentioned B58 in the X5/7 and seven series is not a 6 port turbo.

Thanks

[PaPaDrew G30]

Originally Posted by vladberca

Yeah, so basically no reason to wait for it 🤷*♂️

Wouldn’t say that.
The new B58 from the X5/X7 LCI is a new B58 variation and it has port injection out of the box. But it is still a 2 port turbo.
There is a high chance the this motor for the m340 will be a 6 port and include the recent addition of port injection.

[PaPaDrew G30]

Originally Posted by drexplode

Update for emissions compliance. Could be adding port fuel injection to widen operation map.

100% will have port injection. The new B58 in the X5 and seven series has port injection.
If the motor for the m340 can keep the 6 port turbo and out of the box port injection of the new B58, it would put it on RS3 levels for tuning. The newest B58 in the X5 is still a two port.

[JITH]

I have the B58B30O1 engine with 387 hp (no MH) in my m440i. Is this engine the one we are referring to be adjusted in a way?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by PaPaDrew G30

If it follows the B58 out of the newest 7 series and X5/7 it will have port injection from the factory. Being that is would be the TU2 of the current motor, it very well could be a 6 port turbo with port injection. The before mentioned B58 in the X5/7 and seven series is not a 6 port turbo.

You're several days behind - I already said that this is the same engine.

[TheMaxXHD]

Unlikely to be a 6 port engine if it’s the TU2M2 variant which is 2 port. If it were to be 6 port it would be a different variant, likely an O2 variant, similar to the current O1 variant. Given that the 375 HP is the same as the M2 variant, it’s probably quite literally the same setup as in the X5/X7/7 series.

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by vladberca

Yeah, so basically no reason to wait for it 🤷*♂️

Wait for it so it can bring down the price of the used market. Even if you don’t want the new one

[ynguldyn]

JFC

It is the same exact engine as used in x5/x6/x7

How many times will I have to repeat this before people stop making "educated guesses" here?

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

JFC



It is the same exact engine as used in x5/x6/x7

How many times will I have to repeat this before people stop making "educated guesses" here?

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

JFC



It is the same exact engine as used in x5/x6/x7

How many times will I have to repeat this before people stop making "educated guesses" here?

In fairness, people here might not follow X5/X7/7 series news. When you say same engine, people might not understand what that actually means. Furthermore, while the engine has been out for awhile, only recently has more independent technical information come from it as people start to get cars in the shop and on dynos.

Also I would not put it past BMW to put the B58TU2M2 variant in the 3 series without the transmission mounted mild hybrid setup of the other cars. It seems crazy given I’m not sure if the belt mounted would still be compatible, but also that means there is gonna be a ton of component differences between different market BMW M340i cars, they may not want to further deviate the transmission/drivetrain setup for the US and SK. We have seen BMW do similar things with the N51 for example in the US, but those were pretty small differences. The B58TU1O1 and B58TU2M2 are quite different.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

Also I would not put it past BMW to put the B58TU2M2 variant in the 3 series without the transmission mounted mild hybrid setup of the other cars. It seems crazy given I’m not sure if the belt mounted would still be compatible, but also that means there is gonna be a ton of component differences between different market BMW M340i cars, they may not want to further deviate the transmission/drivetrain setup for the US and SK. We have seen BMW do similar things with the N51 for example in the US, but those were pretty small differences. The B58TU1O1 and B58TU2M2 are quite different.

The correct nomenclature is B58B30O1 and B58B30M2. The latter is also known as B58N (used in parts databases and some other places). There's plenty of information about it already, you just gotta freaking google.

And when I say "the same engine", it literally means the same engine. The whole damn thing including transmission because it's so tightly integrated. I don't understand why you're still trying to imagine some fantastic Frankenstein monster of a powertrain instead. BMW already makes dozens of engine/transmissions variants of the 3er for different world markets, do you think one more would overfill that cup?

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

There's plenty of information about it already, you just gotta freaking google.

It’s an engine people understandably have questions to their favorite car. Engines are complicated, and some articles are less than helpful with the new variant tbh. Heck there are articles out there via google of the 01 variant in the G20 LCI erroneously claiming it got the transmission MH setup for the LCI, when it in fact it did not.

Also my speculation is warranted for the MH setup because initially the 01 didn’t even get a MH setup and was integrated in later models, with the SAME O1 ENGINE (2021 onwards for the M340i). Now yes the M2 MH setup is more integrated than the O1, so it is likely, and if you have confirmation the transmission MH setup is being carried over as well, then I apologize.

Obviously I am not trying to cause an argument, but I’m just saying, that BMW has a history of creating all sorts of variants across the world, and that, in my personal opinion with no evidence, it would not shock me if they created some Frankenstein design, even if the M2 variant is only known to have run in a single config atm.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

in my personal opinion with no evidence, it would not shock me if they created some Frankenstein design, even if the M2 variant is only known to have run in a single config atm.

You are a newish member so that can be the reason not knowing it but when ynguldyn says it, that is the evidence.

[TheMaxXHD]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

You are a newish member so that can be the reason not knowing it but when ynguldyn says it, that is the evidence.

Ah, then I do apologize for the misunderstanding.

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

Ah, then I do apologize for the misunderstanding.

Next time, read the room lol...

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

Obviously I am not trying to cause an argument, but I’m just saying, that BMW has a history of creating all sorts of variants across the world, and that, in my personal opinion with no evidence, it would not shock me if they created some Frankenstein design, even if the M2 variant is only known to have run in a single config atm.

If you dig into the design of M2, it becomes clear it's not built to run in any other configuration.

[boxdotjpeg]

Hoping there will be some info soon on the LCI2 330e. Really interested in seeing if they put the Gen 5 hybrid tech in the G20 for more range and more power like they did in the X5 LCI. Now the X5 LCI electric mode feels as quick as the electric mode as my 330e with the big power jump, pretty much compensated for the big weight difference. A ~350hp 330e with 30 mile electric range would be a very tempting upgrade.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by boxdotjpeg

A ~350hp 330e with 30 mile electric range would be a very tempting upgrade.

Would be but won't be.

[Davidbmwdd]

So can anyone elaborate why my2025 it is worth the wait with no major changes in engine and no major changes in interior( still id8 no 8.5
Or 9) and no changes in exterior( maybe rear lights?)

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Davidbmwdd

So can anyone elaborate why my2025 it is worth the wait with no major changes in engine and no major changes in interior( still id8 no 8.5
Or 9) and no changes in exterior( maybe rear lights?)

You missed the part where I said "US customers".

[Davidbmwdd]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

You missed the part where I said "US customers".

Got it, do you know which updates are planned for Eu ( or outside of USA) ?
For Us i also dont see a lot of changes.