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2019+ BMW 3 AND 4-SERIES FORUMS (G2x Generation) General G80 M3 Sedan Forum (2019+) Would you get a G80/G82 RWD MT, RWD AT, or AWD AT?

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AWD AT 124 46.62%
RWD AT 25 9.40%
RWD MT (Pure) 117 43.98%
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      02-20-2019, 05:16 PM   #23
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Same here, is perfect for a daily driver especially if the AWD can be turned to a RWD with the push of a button and a manu-matic gearbox. It combines the best of two worlds.
That was my rationale as well. The only downside is the increased weight that comes with the AWD system.
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Same here, is perfect for a daily driver especially if the AWD can be turned to a RWD with the push of a button and a manu-matic gearbox. It combines the best of two worlds.
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That was my rationale as well. The only downside is the increased weight that comes with the AWD system.
^This you can shut it off, but all that weight is still there where you don’t want it. It’s one of my favorite things about the F80 is how eagerly it turns into a corner. Add xyz amount of weight up there and it changes things for the worse IMO.

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RWD and MT! I made the biggest mistake in my car enthusiast life by getting my M2 with a DCT. Don't need AWD as I live in Southern California and don't drive aggressively on the street.

On track, I don't want or need the crutch of AWD nor the added weight which of course still be there even if you turn it to RWD only mode. Consumables are expensive
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      03-16-2019, 02:36 PM   #27
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      03-21-2019, 10:08 AM   #28
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The no AWD/MT thing is ridiculous. There is something genuinely special about a powerful, manual, AWD vehicle. I'm in a 2014 MT Audi S4 APR stage 2 right now and it is the tits. The transmission does just fine with ~~475HP and its based on a 7 year old design.

I would say the engineers are lazy but they aren't, they're just overengineering the s*** out of the comfort and convenience side of the M division :/
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I was hoping for some sort of AWD/6MT combo, but seeing as there won't be one, I think I'm going to pass on the next gen M3.
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I think that's to be expected. Like I know it's a cool idea, but i never understood why people would want a RWD SAV or Touring. When I pick cars, i look at either a fun car or a practical car. The only value to getting RWD at that point is slightly better economy. But otherwise it makes more sense to get the awd practicality with AT performance and comfort.
Your definition of "AWD practicality" is geocentric. Those of us who live where it literally never snows don't have any need for AWD, unless it will help us get around a track faster.

My wife's F80 M3 CP is an undeniably fun and practical car. My F82 M4 is slightly less practical and just as much fun.

I grew up in Michigan in a family with four kids and RWD station wagons served us just fine, long before there were AWD SUVs. Of course none of those vehicles were even remotely fun!
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Your definition of "AWD practicality" is geocentric. Those of us who live where it literally never snows don't have any need for AWD, unless it will help us get around a track faster.

My wife's F80 M3 CP is an undeniably fun and practical car. My F82 M4 is slightly less practical and just as much fun.

I grew up in Michigan in a family with four kids and RWD station wagons served us just fine, long before there were AWD SUVs. Of course none of those vehicles were even remotely fun!
Granted, but even in rain, when towing, or just hauling a lot of weight, awd would be preferred. RWD might be "fine" but AWD will perform better. And if it's not going to be (as) fun, then why not get the creature comforts and safety to go with it?
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Granted, but even in rain, when towing, or just hauling a lot of weight, awd would be preferred. RWD might be "fine" but AWD will perform better. And if it's not going to be (as) fun, then why not get the creature comforts and safety to go with it?
We live completely different lives. I rarely drive in the rain, never tow, or "haul a lot of weight". Trucks haul a LOT of weight and they're not AWD. I prefer my cars way more on the side of fun, which is why we also have a Z4 M Roadster. Different strokes...
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We live completely different lives. I rarely drive in the rain, never tow, or "haul a lot of weight". Trucks haul a LOT of weight and they're not AWD. I prefer my cars way more on the side of fun, which is why we also have a Z4 M Roadster. Different strokes...
Yeah no doubt fun cars are rwd, but do you have any use for an SUV or wagon? I'm specifically talking about those body styles. Yeah trucks are rwd but with locking diffs when work gets serious. I've been in the back of a Yukon that was spinning the rear wheels...not a comforting experience.

Anyway, I think we're saying the same thing. I would never get an ///M car in awd any more than I would get an SUV/Wagon in RWD. One's for fun, one's for work.
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I was hoping for some sort of AWD/6MT combo, but seeing as there won't be one, I think I'm going to pass on the next gen M3.
And would be an alternative to a 6MT M3 RWD? Auto-only VAG, MB, Kia?
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And would be an alternative to a 6MT M3 RWD? Auto-only VAG, MB, Kia?

The alternative would be to keep my pristine '16 M3cp w/6MT and buy an X3M or X5M if my only option is Automatic Transmission.

MB and certainly Kia aren't even on my radar.
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And would be an alternative to a 6MT M3 RWD? Auto-only VAG, MB, Kia?
Not that many in the new car market, but certainly a lot more in the used market.

New: 718 or 992 (former being a worse engine vs. M3), Pretty much every American muscle car, Corvette

Used(all MT): 981 GT4, 997 Turbo, 991 S/GTS/GT3, Aston Martin Vantage, F Type, Viper,....
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After driving the M340 and experiencing the serious takeoff acceleration without a drop of lost traction, I can't imagine how the AWD M3 with the Auto will feel like with potentially 90 more horsepower and lighter weight. The F80 is already not a great car to launch with the manual - hopefully they improve that with the next generation given the additional power it will put out.
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I spend 80% of my time in cities like New York and Beijing, 19% on congested highways, and 1% on race track. Therefore ZF 8AT is the best option for me; it is smooth and quick enough. I like the M5 because it has 4wd can be used as a family car, and I hope the new M3 will follow the same path.
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I spend 80% of my time in cities like New York and Beijing, 19% on congested highways, and 1% on race track. Therefore ZF 8AT is the best option for me; it is smooth and quick enough. I like the M5 because it has 4wd can be used as a family car, and I hope the new M3 will follow the same path.
Applying logic in debate about MT vs AT is an exercise in futility.
Clearly I can drive AT but do I want to? NO
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I saw a new 340M today parked next to F80CS. The new 3er looks big to me. Really big. It might be close to the F80 in actual dimensions but it looks bigger. I wonder how big, or not, it feels from behind the wheel. Rear end in person does not impress. The interior on the new car did look very nice.
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