[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by spool twice

you are hilarious

side note, the 105 mph 1/8 mile trap, just remember that on a traditional dragstrip, I believe it averages the 60ft of the MPH (30ft before, 30ft after the 1/8 mile), which is normally 2 or 3 mph off the "true" 1/8 mile trap.


Nonetheless, this thing is a beast from a trap-speed perspective.

I never asked, what is your spec?

Mine is:
Portimao Blue/Cognac
19" standard wheels
HK audio
Parking Assistance
Ambient Lighting
Shadowline
Drive Recorder

Mine's a rather basic built.

I had Tanzanite, but switched to Portimao last week.
Oyster and open pore oak interior.
19" Standard wheels
Hk
Parking Assistance Package
Drivers Assistance Pro
Premium Package
Shadowline Package
Drive Recorder
Harmon Kardon
Laser Lights
Live cockpit Pro
Wireless Device Charging.

Ordered in June...Still not scheduled for production yet

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

I had Tanzanite, but switched to Portimao last week.
Oyster and open pore oak interior.
19" Standard wheels
Hk
Parking Assistance Package
Drivers Assistance Pro
Premium Package
Shadowline Package
Drive Recorder
Harmon Kardon
Laser Lights
Live cockpit Pro
Wireless Device Charging.

Ordered in June...Still not scheduled for production yet

Have you contacted the BMW Genius? (I'm assuming US).

I had to call BMW to get my production week.

[NISFAN]

**Bjorn range test just in**

239 miles range at a steady 56mph cruise. 1 degC wet. 19" wheels.

[spool twice]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

I had Tanzanite, but switched to Portimao last week.
Oyster and open pore oak interior.
19" Standard wheels
Hk
Parking Assistance Package
Drivers Assistance Pro
Premium Package
Shadowline Package
Drive Recorder
Harmon Kardon
Laser Lights
Live cockpit Pro
Wireless Device Charging.

Ordered in June...Still not scheduled for production yet

Gr8 build

I was torn on the above as I have them on the g20 330i in my garage.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

**Bjorn range test just in**

239 miles range at a steady 56mph cruise. 1 degC wet. 19" wheels.

That's great for that cold weather. Plenty of range for me, since even my 2019 i3 has way more range than I need. And I have taken my 2017 116 mile range i3 BEV from LA to Vegas, San Francisco, etc. With no issues using the EVgo network. My i3 can get 150 miles. But even running my heater in SoCal, my range dips to 90 miles often. Anything over 200 miles is more than sufficient for me. Need an extra 100 miles, so you take a 15 minute charging break. No big deal.

[spool twice]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

That's great for that cold weather. Plenty of range for me, since even my 2019 i3 has way more range than I need. And I have take my 2017 116 mile range i3 BEV from LA to Vegas, San Francisco, etc. With no issues using the EVgo network. My i3 can get 150 miles. But even running my heater in SoCal, my range dips to 90 miles often. Anything over 200 miles is more than sufficient for me. Need an extra 100 miles, so you take a 15 minute charging break. No big deal.

no doubt, especially considering that the EPA estimate is 270miles and that's using a 2 cycle method that BMW uses.

I've actually read in another article where the BMW i4 M50 did 267miles in a steady 100kph test, where the Tesla Model 3 Dual-Motor LONG RANGE, not performance... did 273 miles.

So, very happy with how the i4 M50 w/ 19" wheels is coming about thus far, specially considering it was done in NL on 01.24.2022 (in other words, COLD day testing(=)


Did you see the range/charge test by Bjorn too? It looks like the i4 is delivering on its promise of 10-80% in about 30 mins, in the same weather as his test quoted above impressive

[spool twice]

mid 3's @ 15% SoC, now that's what I call consistency...

side note, 100-200kph 8.3 seconds

[jeffc42]

Originally Posted by spool twice

mid 3's @ 15% SoC, now that's what I call consistency...

side note, 100-200kph 8.3 seconds

With winter tires, no less.

[footie]

Will be interesting to see how the M50 compared to the likes of an Audi E-Tron GT or Taycan 4S as both would be considered a rival to the M50 more than the M3P will be.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by spool twice

mid 3's @ 15% SoC, now that's what I call consistency...

side note, 100-200kph 8.3 seconds

Impressive. The dyno charts i have seen show the Model 3 Performance to have significant HP loss below 30%. We may even be able to pull on them at low speeds if they have low SOC. Too bad they didn't have a +100HP option. That would satisfy my wants completely.

I wish all the tests would disclose SOC (CARWOW!). 0-200 there is almost a 1 sec difference between 58% and 97% SOC.

[blinkme323]

Seems to have a weird lag off the line that I'm not used to seeing with other EVs. Not sure if it is a safety precaution or what, but that might be a dealbreaker.

[hotrod182]

Originally Posted by blinkme323

Seems to have a weird lag off the line that I'm not used to seeing with other EVs. Not sure if it is a safety precaution or what, but that might be a dealbreaker.

Yeah, if they could program out the initial lag, the BMW would likely beat the Model 3 in low end range acceleration runs as well.

[footie]

Originally Posted by blinkme323

Seems to have a weird lag off the line that I'm not used to seeing with other EVs. Not sure if it is a safety precaution or what, but that might be a dealbreaker.

Why would this be a dealbreaker?

[spool twice]

Originally Posted by footie

Why would this be a dealbreaker?

Because stoplight warrior

[cruzer666]

Originally Posted by spool twice

Because stoplight warrior

It's been a while since I used launch control in a Tesla but I tried to notice that lag that I've head people reference and I just can't feel it on the m50. It must be very slight.

And even if there was a slight lag, that wouldn't affect the car's performance from full stop. If the car isn't moving, the timer isn't going either right ?

In addition, the i4 m50 rolling start numbers are excellent, so I'm not sure where the problem is.

[spool twice]

Originally Posted by cruzer666

It's been a while since I used launch control in a Tesla but I tried to notice that lag that I've head people reference and I just can't feel it on the m50. It must be very slight.

And even if there was a slight lag, that wouldn't affect the car's performance from full stop. If the car isn't moving, the timer isn't going either right ?

In addition, the i4 m50 rolling start numbers are excellent, so I'm not sure where the problem is.

apparently .2 seconds off another brands car is a deal breaker off the line, because .2 seconds = mega car lengths to make you look like a fool in traffic

The reality is .2 seconds is like the difference between behind to 60mph is the difference between being neck/neck and being at another cars front axle line, so are you truly "overtaking" that car, the answer is no, unless you intended on crashing into the vehicle next to you to claim insurance fraud

[cruzer666]

Originally Posted by spool twice

apparently .2 seconds off another brands car is a deal breaker off the line, because .2 seconds = mega car lengths to make you look like a fool in traffic

The reality is .2 seconds is like the difference between behind to 60mph is the difference between being neck/neck and being at another cars front axle line, so are you truly "overtaking" that car, the answer is no, unless you intended on crashing into the vehicle next to you to claim insurance fraud

I do wonder if people are going to start playing with the ECU that control this. It does make sense, reputable tuning companies have been doing it to ICE cars for a long time, this would be next phase. So they may get even more than 0.2 seconds back.

The jolt just isn't worth it for me though.

[blinkme323]

Originally Posted by footie

Why would this be a dealbreaker?

Because I've driven a number of performance EVs and this is literally the only one that has a senseless delay mechanism on throttle. It's odd and frankly off-putting. Hoping they address it sooner rather than later.

[footie]

Originally Posted by blinkme323

Because I've driven a number of performance EVs and this is literally the only one that has a senseless delay mechanism on throttle. It's odd and frankly off-putting. Hoping they address it sooner rather than later.

I’ve driven only ICE cars, most performance ones but in recent years they have all had turbos so throttle response isn’t anywhere nearly as good as the i4. To me at least it’s throttle response feels very natural.

[jeff2.0t]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

**Bjorn range test just in**

239 miles range at a steady 56mph cruise. 1 degC wet. 19" wheels.

1 deg isn't winter.... We need a proper winter test at -10c.

the demos have just arrived in canada, I hope we will have figures for winter driving.

[Mike i4 M50]

The Taycan 4S demo car I drove here in the U.S. had a slight lag also. It was in the default drive mode, whatever that is (sorry, I don't remember). Maybe that diminishes when you change to another mode. It wasn't a bad thing necessarily, but it was surprising. When I put my put down, there was a pause and then WHOOOOSH away I went as the power pushed me back in the seat.

[techwhiz1]

Originally Posted by blinkme323

Because I've driven a number of performance EVs and this is literally the only one that has a senseless delay mechanism on throttle. It's odd and frankly off-putting. Hoping they address it sooner rather than later.

I drove and iX last weekend and I definitely didn't feel any hesitation or lag. The iX weighs in at more than the M50 and the acceleration and stopping was impressive.

As someone who owned BMWs with weird throttle mapping; this isn't a deal breaker to me.

I'm waiting for my first test drive in the next couple of weeks.

I have finalized my build, pricing and 1.9% financing with BMW. (Why use my cash when I can use theirs?)