[paulbazoV2]

Originally Posted by Nugget2018

I went with the m440 GC because the exterior is more aggressive over the m340 plus there are a lot of 330/340 on the roads but there are not a lot of m440 GC.

I had an M340i , great car, I wanted to replace it with a M440 GC when lease expired in Oct,


but then I saw the I4 M50, and changed my mind, placed an order for the M50 in April thinking I'd get it by November, still waiting .

In the meantime I found a 22 I4 Edrive40 cancellation and bought it, I will decide if I keep it or get the M50 when it gets here next year

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by paulbazoV2

I had an M340i , great car, I wanted to replace it with a M440 GC when lease expired in Oct,


but then I saw the I4 M50, and changed my mind, placed an order for the M50 in April thinking I'd get it by November, still waiting .

In the meantime I found a 22 I4 Edrive40 cancellation and bought it, I will decide if I keep it or get the M50 when it gets here next year

Very interesting. You basically got the electric version of the 4 series GC. Hard to argue with that.

Looking forward to hearing your experiences with it since it is our first look at the future for BMW.

[paulbazoV2]

Originally Posted by madpistol

Very interesting. You basically got the electric version of the 4 series GC. Hard to argue with that.

Looking forward to hearing your experiences with it since it is our first look at the future for BMW.

I4 E40 acceleration is between 430GC and M440GC, closer to M440.

The main difference is that It's heavier than the 4GC and no exhaust noise, it drives very nice, suspension is great, what's to like? Well, no trips to gas station, I charge it at home and every morning is ready to go; no brake dust at all, my wheels have never been so clean all the time.

When the tax rebate was still available, the M50 costed the same as the M440 and the E40 same as the 430, now tax credit is over so the price is aprox $7k more than equivalent ICE model.

[Sight22]

I went from the M340 to M440 GC as well. The 340 had the non adaptive suspension though. It felt like a go cart compared to the M440 even with it in sport mode. I like the looks of the 440 way better even with the grill. I only had a couple people notice the 340 ever. I get people talking to me about the M440 all the time. Sunroof open is a lot louder in the m440. Also feels slower to me. I had the non hybrid 340 too. I raced my neighbor from a dig in his 340 and he was pulling on me. He has the non hybrid. I think you covered the rest. Brakes feel a little more touchy in the 440.

[jjl]

Thread bump - while I love hatchbacks and normally would pick the M440i GC over the M340i hands down, the LCI M340i in Skyscraper Grey /Red interior looks fantastic, and i like that it has the updated curved screen and gear selector that the GC does not. Haven't found a color/wheel combo that I love on the GC, I keep coming back to Dravit/Tacora/859M bicolor but not as convinced as w the Skyscraper M340i. Curious if the '24 GC will have the updated interior. Tough call for me between the two. Prefer the GC overall, but prefer the current spec of the M340. The GC always looks like it needs to be lowered to me, and I don't usually like lowered cars at all.

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by jjl

Thread bump - while I love hatchbacks and normally would pick the M440i GC over the M340i hands down, the LCI M340i in Skyscraper Grey /Red interior looks fantastic, and i like that it has the updated curved screen and gear selector that the GC does not. Haven't found a color/wheel combo that I love on the GC, I keep coming back to Dravit/Tacora/859M bicolor but not as convinced as w the Skyscraper M340i. Curious if the '24 GC will have the updated interior. Tough call for me between the two. Prefer the GC overall, but prefer the current spec of the M340. The GC always looks like it needs to be lowered to me, and I don't usually like lowered cars at all.

The '24 GC and Coupe will be getting the same changes.

[TupperBMW]

I have a hard time believing that there is any difference between the M340i and M440i besides aesthetics and whatever your mind can come up with to justify the decision.

If I’m swapping out of an M340i, I’m getting into the M550i. That would be a different car

[Rawhide]

Originally Posted by TupperBMW

I have a hard time believing that there is any difference between the M340i and M440i besides aesthetics and whatever your mind can come up with to justify the decision.

If I’m swapping out of an M340i, I’m getting into the M550i. That would be a different car

I agree with all this, it's a body style choice and that's pretty much it. That said, the big grills have grown on me over time and I do like the looks of it now. Personally, I'd still go with the M340i as I prefer a sedan.

[wdc330i]

Originally Posted by Rawhide

I agree with all this, it's a body style choice and that's pretty much it. That said, the big grills have grown on me over time and I do like the looks of it now. Personally, I'd still go with the M340i as I prefer a sedan.

That’s where the 4 GC slots in—basically a sedan with a hatch.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by TupperBMW

I have a hard time believing that there is any difference between the M340i and M440i besides aesthetics and whatever your mind can come up with to justify the decision.

If I’m swapping out of an M340i, I’m getting into the M550i. That would be a different car

As someone who has owned both an M340i and M440i GC, I disagree. I, too, expected the cars to be basically identical except for the hatch and aesthetics, but I was wrong.

• M440i GC is quieter. This is supported by the car being significantly heavier (sound deadening)
• M440i GC rides better. Also is supported by the car being heavier.
• M440i GC is more spritely off the line. This is supported by a higher final drive ratio (2.93 vs. 2.81 on the M340i)
• M440i GC has softer seats (only explanation for this is it's built in Germany vs. the M340i was built in Mexico, so possibly different seat material supplier?).
• M440i GC is more comfortable overall. The car is heavier, has more sound deadening, wider (more elbow room on the door side).
• M440i GC steering is lighter (Sport steering on GC feels like comfort on M340i. Possibly retuned due to car being heavier.)

You can believe what you want, but I had the M340i for over a year before I traded it in for an M440i GC. I have no reason to lie about this. When it's all said and done, I like the M440i GC better, but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone will. It's just a better fit for me.

[TupperBMW]

Originally Posted by madpistol

As someone who has owned both an M340i and M440i GC, I disagree. I, too, expected the cars to be basically identical except for the hatch and aesthetics, but I was wrong.

• M440i GC is quieter. This is supported by the car being significantly heavier (sound deadening)
• M440i GC rides better. Also is supported by the car being heavier.
• M440i GC is more spritely off the line. This is supported by a higher final drive ratio (2.93 vs. 2.81 on the M340i)
• M440i GC has softer seats (only explanation for this is it's built in Germany vs. the M340i was built in Mexico, so possibly different seat material supplier?).
• M440i GC is more comfortable overall. The car is heavier, has more sound deadening, wider (more elbow room on the door side).
• M440i GC steering is lighter (Sport steering on GC feels like comfort on M340i. Possibly retuned due to car being heavier.)

You can believe what you want, but I had the M340i for over a year before I traded it in for an M440i GC. I have no reason to lie about this. When it's all said and done, I like the M440i GC better, but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone will. It's just a better fit for me.

I understand that there may be some subtle differences, but nothing here seems to be on the order of magnitude that would make me want to change cars, even if I didn't have 2 kids.

I would for sure want a much more dramatic change in order to trade in/sell my M340i for another car. Again, M550i is such an example that comes to mind. But hey, that's me. To each his own

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by TupperBMW

I understand that there may be some subtle differences, but nothing here seems to be on the order of magnitude that would make me want to change cars, even if I didn't have 2 kids.

I would for sure want a much more dramatic change in order to trade in/sell my M340i for another car. Again, M550i is such an example that comes to mind. But hey, that's me. To each his own

No one is telling you to trade in your M340i for an M440i GC. There's 4 reasons I did it.

1. M340i was a lease, M440i GC is a purchase.
2. M340i was picked from a dealership lot, while the M440i GC was a custom build.
3. I could not get some of the options I wanted on the M340i (during COVID, only the M440i GC had certain options).
4. I like the M440i styling better (subjective).

The best part is that my car came with everything: touchscreen, full power seats, lumbar, etc. Nothing was deleted.

If I already had an M340i spec'd the way I wanted, I would not have spent the money to get an M440i GC.

[TupperBMW]

^ Ahh I see, that makes sense. It seems confusing though because in your signature you say "M340i sold"

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by TupperBMW

^ Ahh I see, that makes sense. It seems confusing though because in your signature you say "M340i sold"

Well, the M340i had $1500 in positive equity when I traded it in, so technically it was sold.

[Randy Johnson]

Originally Posted by totalone

Dude, I got mine 1 month ago.
Got AA downpipe, now its just perfect. Its soft when she needs to be soft, and she gets stiff when I want to take her for a spin. I am so happy I went 4 over 3. Best choice I have ever made.

Oh and let's be honest, who cares about the grill? Once you inside and driving it I can care less what she looks like in front, she looks better from behind

It goes beyond the grill.... All the people staring and laughing at you care...

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by Randy Johnson

It goes beyond the grill.... All the people staring and laughing at you care...

Nobody is staring and laughing, except for BMW fanbois. My car gets so many compliments that I've lost count. People genuinely love the way the M440i GC looks; it has a lot of presence in a sea of dull and boring commuter cars. My previous M340i never got that much positive attention.

[BUUUDDY]

Originally Posted by madpistol

It's been a couple of weeks since I traded in my '21 M340i and took delivery of my '22 M440i GC. A lot of people say there aren't many differences... and a lot of people are wrong.

I'm going to preface this by saying that I really liked the M340i. In fact, when I went to pick up the M440i GC, I had basically convinced myself that either I was going to purchase the M440i GC, or I was going to pay off my lease and purchase the M340i. Either way, I was leaving the dealership with a car that I was going to keep.

Let's talk about the differences.



1. Hatchback - The most obvious difference is the addition of a hatchback on the M440i GC. I loved my old Mazda 3 hatchback due to its versatility, and the M440i GC has reminded me why... it's just fantastic. So much usability and practicality. I wish BMW made an M4 GC.

2. Exterior Design - The M340i is very sleek and understated, while the M440i GC is aggressive and bulbous. I personally like the muscular stance of the M440i GC, but lets be real... the M440i GC gets A LOT more attention than the M340i. The M340i looked like every other BMW, but the M440i GC looks unique and bold. If you get the M440i GC, be prepared for people to notice and ask questions about it.

3. Interior Design - This is where the M340i and M440i GC are very similar. The biggest differences are in passenger volume and comfort. I "think" the front seats are a bit softer in the M440i GC, and there is more elbow room on the doors. Also, the door elbow rests are most definitely softer than the M340i. Unfortunately, this is all at the cost of backseat comfort, which is definitely better in the M340i. Fit and finish are equally good on both cars.

4. Ride - The suspension was great in the M340i, but BMW definitely re-tuned it on the M440i GC to be a bit more compliant . It's still on the firm side, but it dampens out bumps and road imperfections just a bit easier. I always thought the M340i was slightly stiff, but the M440i GC is a beautiful blend of sport and comfort. This may also be because the M440i GC is much more quiet at speed. BMW definitely added some sound deadening material to the M440i GC, and it makes the car very pleasant when not driving it aggressively.

5. Handling - It definitely feels like the M440i GC is more of a GT car than an outright performance car; the steering is even lighter than the M340i was. Unfortunately, this also means it has even less feel as well. I personally don't mind, but BMW purists will boo and hiss at this. That being said, when you take a corner, it digs and goes. It has plenty of grip up front and is able to take corners with zero drama. Push the throttle a bit, and let the car wag its tail... it does that, too.

6. Power - It has the same B58/ZF 8-speed combo as the M340i, but again, I think BMW retuned the throttle mapping. Even in Comfort, I notice that the revs hold on a bit longer than in the M340i. This might be due to the extra weight on the M440i GC. Either way, when not pushing the car, the M440i GC actually feels more powerful. Because I am still in break-in, I have not pushed it hard just yet; I highly doubt it will feel more powerful at WOT, but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised.


Conclusion - Is the M440i GC worth $3k - 4k more than a comparable M340i? That depends.

If you plan on taking more than you and a passenger every day of the week, the M340i will be better due to rear passenger space alone. I also think the M340i is a bit more "fun" to drive if you're going to push it hard.

However, if you want a bit more comfort for the driver and the front passenger, as well as a smoother, more quiet ride (not to mention the practicality of a hatchback), the M440i GC is a slam dunk. You get the amazing B58 6-cylinder in a bold and stylish package that is a bit more buttoned down and serious while on the road. I honestly can't wait to get to the end of break-in so I can finally test out xDrive Launch Control.




What are your thoughts?

Love the Brooklyn Gray! I have the same color.

[Cortexiphan]

My lease for M340i is ending in Nov.
M340i fits better for me, as I have a 7 year old who sits in the back.

But solely because of the design (specifically front end), I like 4GC better and can't decide. 3 is so boring and bland in comparison... Other option would be to buy off my lease, which is economically more feasible of course...

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

My lease for M340i is ending in Nov.
M340i fits better for me, as I have a 7 year old who sits in the back.

But solely because of the design (specifically front end), I like 4GC better and can't decide. 3 is so boring and bland in comparison... Other option would be to buy off my lease, which is economically more feasible of course...

If you're happy with your current car, buy it. The economy for cars is so crap right now that you aren't going to find a better deal than the car you're driving.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by madpistol

It's been a couple of weeks since I traded in my '21 M340i and took delivery of my '22 M440i GC. A lot of people say there aren't many differences... and a lot of people are wrong.

I'm going to preface this by saying that I really liked the M340i. In fact, when I went to pick up the M440i GC, I had basically convinced myself that either I was going to purchase the M440i GC, or I was going to pay off my lease and purchase the M340i. Either way, I was leaving the dealership with a car that I was going to keep.

Let's talk about the differences.



1. Hatchback - The most obvious difference is the addition of a hatchback on the M440i GC. I loved my old Mazda 3 hatchback due to its versatility, and the M440i GC has reminded me why... it's just fantastic. So much usability and practicality. I wish BMW made an M4 GC.

2. Exterior Design - The M340i is very sleek and understated, while the M440i GC is aggressive and bulbous. I personally like the muscular stance of the M440i GC, but lets be real... the M440i GC gets A LOT more attention than the M340i. The M340i looked like every other BMW, but the M440i GC looks unique and bold. If you get the M440i GC, be prepared for people to notice and ask questions about it.

3. Interior Design - This is where the M340i and M440i GC are very similar. The biggest differences are in passenger volume and comfort. I "think" the front seats are a bit softer in the M440i GC, and there is more elbow room on the doors. Also, the door elbow rests are most definitely softer than the M340i. Unfortunately, this is all at the cost of backseat comfort, which is definitely better in the M340i. Fit and finish are equally good on both cars.

4. Ride - The suspension was great in the M340i, but BMW definitely re-tuned it on the M440i GC to be a bit more compliant . It's still on the firm side, but it dampens out bumps and road imperfections just a bit easier. I always thought the M340i was slightly stiff, but the M440i GC is a beautiful blend of sport and comfort. This may also be because the M440i GC is much more quiet at speed. BMW definitely added some sound deadening material to the M440i GC, and it makes the car very pleasant when not driving it aggressively.

5. Handling - It definitely feels like the M440i GC is more of a GT car than an outright performance car; the steering is even lighter than the M340i was. Unfortunately, this also means it has even less feel as well. I personally don't mind, but BMW purists will boo and hiss at this. That being said, when you take a corner, it digs and goes. It has plenty of grip up front and is able to take corners with zero drama. Push the throttle a bit, and let the car wag its tail... it does that, too.

6. Power - It has the same B58/ZF 8-speed combo as the M340i, but again, I think BMW retuned the throttle mapping. Even in Comfort, I notice that the revs hold on a bit longer than in the M340i. This might be due to the extra weight on the M440i GC. Either way, when not pushing the car, the M440i GC actually feels more powerful. Because I am still in break-in, I have not pushed it hard just yet; I highly doubt it will feel more powerful at WOT, but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised.


Conclusion - Is the M440i GC worth $3k - 4k more than a comparable M340i? That depends.

If you plan on taking more than you and a passenger every day of the week, the M340i will be better due to rear passenger space alone. I also think the M340i is a bit more "fun" to drive if you're going to push it hard.

However, if you want a bit more comfort for the driver and the front passenger, as well as a smoother, more quiet ride (not to mention the practicality of a hatchback), the M440i GC is a slam dunk. You get the amazing B58 6-cylinder in a bold and stylish package that is a bit more buttoned down and serious while on the road. I honestly can't wait to get to the end of break-in so I can finally test out xDrive Launch Control.




What are your thoughts?

i've learnt a few things reading this today!

the car looks good, not sure why the grill is not putting me off like the M ones.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by g21

i've learnt a few things reading this today!

the car looks good, not sure why the grill is not putting me off like the M ones.

I actually posted some pics of my car over on the BMW reddit, and man, you would think it's the ugliest car in the world based on the comments I got. The design is super fresh and aggressive. I get that BMW enthusiasts hate it because it breaks from "heritage" of BMW design, but I get so many compliments and thumbs up from others that I'm convinced that BMW land is the only group that hates it.

[phileaglesbmw]

I considered a M340i but personally it felt small. I really love the M440i GC. I actually think the grille is ok and I get a lot of compliments. People cannot even spell grille right since a grill is something you cook on. I also didn't care much for the M340i being assembled in Mexico.