[gashead76]

Originally Posted by P-ToK72

So is yours already in production?
Just wondering how the dealer is able to ensure or confirm it’s not affected by the touchscreen loss unless it’s already built as the suggestion is it started in week 43?

Not sure he can confirm 100% with the current situation just regurgitating what I have been told and he did say he is sure it isn't being deleted, I take it all with a pinch of salt, can only hope he does know better and it isn't deleted or we will need to have a discussion as I personally do use it.

[P-ToK72]

Originally Posted by gashead76

Not sure he can confirm 100% with the current situation just regurgitating what I have been told and he did say he is sure it isn't being deleted, I take it all with a pinch of salt, can only hope he does know better and it isn't deleted or we will need to have a discussion as I personally do use it.

We’re all living in hope.
That’s the frustrating part about it that even the dealers don’t seem to really know or they are telling us what they think we want to hear until the last minute.

[gashead76]

Originally Posted by P-ToK72

We’re all living in hope.
That’s the frustrating part about it that even the dealers don’t seem to really know or they are telling us what they think we want to hear until the last minute.

True... my order has been pushed back twice, should of been collecting this week originaly, strange how some on here have had a fairly smooth ride and others are having an absolute mare. I actually believe he/dealer believes it's not changing anyway... not sure if touchscreen deletion also removes reverse assist, read somewhere it does.

[tyranniux]

Unfortunately it will happen and there isn't anything your dealer will be able to do about it. I'd also doubt a retrofit is possible.

[gashead76]

Originally Posted by tyranniux

Unfortunately it will happen and there isn't anything your dealer will be able to do about it. I'd also doubt a retrofit is possible.

Unsure anyone with any certainty can be sure from personal experience, my order went from having hand gesture to then hand gesture being removed to then being reinstated on my latest pencilled/confirmed build week. "If" it's not as simple as replacing a screen with the touchscreen I will need to consider my options.

[dpazz]

Originally Posted by tyranniux

Unfortunately it will happen and there isn't anything your dealer will be able to do about it. I'd also doubt a retrofit is possible.

What are you basing any of this on? We don't seem to have a lot of facts at the moment.

My dealer's also explained he's not aware of any of their cars being affected by the spec change as yet. Including mine.

I also don't think BMW would be able to get away with removing the feature without disclosure to the customer before delivery. Otherwise they're not delivering to the spec.

My guess is this is a spec change that only affects certain models of the g20/g21 range, in a similar manner to HUD etc with M Sport models are below. Or atleast, here's hoping! One of the features I was always pleasantly surprised with on the BMW infotainment was the fact it had both a physical controller and touch interface. So I'll be annoyed if it is removed.

[gashead76]

Originally Posted by dpazz

What are you basing any of this on? We don't seem to have a lot of facts at the moment.

My dealer's also explained he's not aware of any of their cars being affected by the spec change as yet. Including mine.

I also don't think BMW would be able to get away with removing the feature without disclosure to the customer before delivery. Otherwise they're not delivering to the spec.

My guess is this is a spec change that only affects certain models of the g20/g21 range, in a similar manner to HUD etc with M Sport models are below. Or atleast, here's hoping! One of the features I was always pleasantly surprised with on the BMW infotainment was the fact it had both a physical controller and touch interface. So I'll be annoyed if it is removed.

My dealer did say numerous orders were affected but my order wasn't and is what I think lesser models are being affected in the range.. hopefully as its something that I will want.

[d 246]

My order was built in Wk 43 and is now in the country. I'll find out soon re the touch screen....

[4monks]

Originally Posted by d 246

My order was built in Wk 43 and is now in the country. I'll find out soon re the touch screen....

Fingers crossed!

[tyranniux]

Originally Posted by dpazz

What are you basing any of this on? We don't seem to have a lot of facts at the moment.

My dealer's also explained he's not aware of any of their cars being affected by the spec change as yet. Including mine.

I also don't think BMW would be able to get away with removing the feature without disclosure to the customer before delivery. Otherwise they're not delivering to the spec.

My guess is this is a spec change that only affects certain models of the g20/g21 range, in a similar manner to HUD etc with M Sport models are below. Or atleast, here's hoping! One of the features I was always pleasantly surprised with on the BMW infotainment was the fact it had both a physical controller and touch interface. So I'll be annoyed if it is removed.

Information from my dealer. He advised that a dealer wide communication was received on Tuesday I believe so my guess is that dealers will be communicating it. The only confusing bit is he explained that they aren't amending orders with it as a block exercise but the spec will be amended when the vehicle goes into or during the build. Advised all vehicles post week 43 affected. Mine is due for build week 46 and its an m340i and will have it removed.

[marksandygill]

People sitting in M340i's that you can't buy anymore, with HK, wireless charging and touchscreens right now...

[gashead76]

Originally Posted by tyranniux

Information from my dealer. He advised that a dealer wide communication was received on Tuesday I believe so my guess is that dealers will be communicating it. The only confusing bit is he explained that they aren't amending orders with it as a block exercise but the spec will be amended when the vehicle goes into or during the build. Advised all vehicles post week 43 affected. Mine is due for build week 46 and its an m340i and will have it removed.

Thanks, sent this to my dealer, rather be informed now

[k755]

Was in Bowker BMW had 2 new Suvs, a cancelled order M4 and 2 3 series in the show room ,rest where second hand. Salesperson told me they would not be selling any new cars till March. Enquired about a 330e to replace mine and was told possible April delivery if ordered now and would not have Touch screen or reverse assistant!

[4monks]

Of course the iXs, i4s and LCIs will be touch screen because they moved all the A/C buttons to the screen.... a bad move in my opinion but locks in touchscreen.

[Colliwobbles]

Originally Posted by k755

Was in Bowker BMW had 2 new Suvs, a cancelled order M4 and 2 3 series in the show room ,rest where second hand. Salesperson told me they would not be selling any new cars till March. Enquired about a 330e to replace mine and was told possible April delivery if ordered now and would not have Touch screen or reverse assistant!

Got one for sale at Bowker Blackburn unless it is not what you want

[d 246]

Will the dealers be offering a discount if your order turns up without the touchscreen?

[jdc0907]

Originally Posted by d 246

Will the dealers be offering a discount if your order turns up without the touchscreen?

Originally Posted by d 246

Will the dealers be offering a discount if your order turns up without the touchscreen?

Apparently it's a £500 credit, although I would want them to fit a touchscreen at the first possible opportunity

[Colliwobbles]

Originally Posted by jdc0907

Apparently it's a £500 credit, although I would want them to fit a touchscreen at the first possible opportunity

Read somewhere else that it is a £370 credit which would also equate to the $500 credit.
Also read retrofit won’t be a option.

If it is such a little issue they can swop over the one from my part exchange…. ha ha no chance they will do that

[gashead76]

Originally Posted by jdc0907

Apparently it's a £500 credit, although I would want them to fit a touchscreen at the first possible opportunity

Been playing with just my knob today

I will seriously have to consider my options as its just not as intuitive as using all the controls at my disposal in my current... lesser model of car, waiting on my dealer for a difinitive answer but suspect it has been removed.

[Makefish]

Originally Posted by tyranniux

Information from my dealer. He advised that a dealer wide communication was received on Tuesday I believe so my guess is that dealers will be communicating it. The only confusing bit is he explained that they aren't amending orders with it as a block exercise but the spec will be amended when the vehicle goes into or during the build. Advised all vehicles post week 43 affected. Mine is due for build week 46 and its an m340i and will have it removed.

I was at my dealer today and saw this announcement first hand, it confirms everything you say but additionally other models are affected:

3 Series G20/G21
4 Series Coupe G22
4 Series Grand Coupe G24
4 Series Convertible G23
Z4 G29

Touch Screen deletion affects these models from build week 43 onwards so anything manufactured after w/c 25th October (we will see if this is true or not with those of you picking up new vehicles in the coming few weeks).

As has been said previously, £500 +VAT will be deducted from the total order value but those of you hoping for a retrofit later will be dissapointed, this will not be possible.

It was also intimated that models further up the range may also be affected in the new year and to expect further disruption to production throughout 2022.

[tyranniux]

Originally Posted by Makefish

I was at my dealer today and saw this announcement first hand, it confirms everything you say but additionally other models are affected:

3 Series G20/G21
4 Series Coupe G22
4 Series Grand Coupe G24
4 Series Convertible G23
Z4 G29

Touch Screen deletion affects these models from build week 43 onwards so anything manufactured after w/c 25th October (we will see if this is true or not with those of you picking up new vehicles in the coming few weeks).

As has been said previously, £500 +VAT will be deducted from the total order value but those of you hoping for a retrofit later will be dissapointed, this will not be possible.

It was also intimated that models further up the range may also be affected in the new year and to expect further disruption to production throughout 2022.

It's £500 Inc VAT I believe

[Makefish]

Originally Posted by tyranniux

It's £500 Inc VAT I believe

I stand corrected, you are right