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BMW just doesn't do good EPS simple as that. Even their best rack isn't as good as a last generation Mazda 3. I don't expect the steering to be amazing in BMW's anymore (quite the turn around from what I expected from Bimmers before 2010).
Best steering feel right now is Porsche GT cars, Alfa Giulia, most of the GM Alpha Chassis Products (Camaro, ATS-V, etc.) and pre-2020 GT350's (2020's have the GT500's settings which remove on-center feel).
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This sounds infinitely better than any current M3/M4 I've ever heard.
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I would buy the manual regardless. Over the years, with all the improvements they've made and the "Ultimate Driving Machine" tag, you would think they would be known for the great feel of the transmission by now. So far, with a couple of lukewarm reviews, it doesn't look like they are going out with a bang as far as that's concerned. This is probably the last gen with a manual transmission so maybe its not a priority.
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sadly too many people these days value 0-60 over handling, feedback, etc.
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No way will a 6MT G8X achieve 3.1 to 60mph. The lighter 992 C2S 7MT with all the weight on those fat rear wheels isn't even that fast.
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I do not believe that is the case. Car magazines have been clocking 0-60 since the 60's. It's a performance metric that people have cared about forever. It's not the only metric but nonetheless straight line speed has always been valued and let's not be silly and start proclaiming that's all people care about as if it was was the case nobody would care about Porsches and we would all be driving Dodge Hellcats. Last edited by heavyD^2; 07-08-2020 at 07:34 AM.. |
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They haven't mentioned whether M2 CS has CFRP driveshaft either, which I assume it means no.
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I am not saying we shouldn't be discussing it, I am part of the discussion. What I am saying is that launching from a dig has never been the M3's main focus. It's always been about race track performance. Further, straight line speed is not only about launching from a dig, for me it is more about the ability to sustain good acceleration at higher speeds, that's what matters on a track. And I think the RWD G8X will be very strong in that respect.
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And I said that's not the case because cars like the Hellcat are outliers. Even Mustangs and Camaros have evolved into very capable track cars because most people value "engagement, feedback, etc" over 0-60 times.
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